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Christmas border force airport strike

Old 9th Dec 2022, 09:42
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I'll be caught up in this as SLF coming back into LHR early on 31 Dec. I'm crossing my fingers that they won't be cancelling long haul flights and that the ePassport gates will be working flawlessly!!
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 18:43
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Who pays Mr/Mrs Border Force's Bills?

I'll admit to being puzzled here.
Border Force force go on strike for 10 days. No pay for them.
Mr /Mrs Border Force (being very woke' here) at home wonders where the money is going to come from to cover up to two weeks with no money coming in to feed the kids, the family and pay the bills.
Even worse case for Mrs Train Driver.
10% pay rise will barely cover their lost income. So what will they do to retrieve that situation? I guess go on strike for even more pay.
Is it just me or - - - -
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 03:08
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi
I'll admit to being puzzled here.
Border Force force go on strike for 10 days. No pay for them.
Mr /Mrs Border Force (being very woke' here) at home wonders where the money is going to come from to cover up to two weeks with no money coming in to feed the kids, the family and pay the bills.
Even worse case for Mrs Train Driver.
10% pay rise will barely cover their lost income. So what will they do to retrieve that situation? I guess go on strike for even more pay.
Is it just me or - - - -
It's just you, your reasoning does have some serious flaws.

The incoming will (usually) be compensated by union pay-outs, union savings from previously paid union contribution.
The income gain will benefit for the whole future, vs. the "just once" costs.
The income gain will work through in percentage for future gains (call it compound interest, and you'll get it).
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 08:23
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Agreed - the civil service unions are currently just pulling out workers in key areas, and they are supported by the union at large.
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 08:38
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Originally Posted by WideScreen
It's just you, your reasoning does have some serious flaws.

The incoming will (usually) be compensated by union pay-outs, union savings from previously paid union contribution.
The income gain will benefit for the whole future, vs. the "just once" costs.
The income gain will work through in percentage for future gains (call it compound interest, and you'll get it).
Thank you for the perspective. Never having been in a Union I didnt know that.
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 08:44
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi
I'll admit to being puzzled here.
Border Force force go on strike for 10 days. No pay for them.
Mr /Mrs Border Force (being very woke' here) at home wonders where the money is going to come from to cover up to two weeks with no money coming in to feed the kids, the family and pay the bills.
Even worse case for Mrs Train Driver.
10% pay rise will barely cover their lost income. So what will they do to retrieve that situation? I guess go on strike for even more pay.
Is it just me or - - - -
It's not all about the money. Train drivers are not the ones going on strike or demanding a 10% pay rise. Its the much lower paid ancillary and maintenance personnel that are in dispute. These strikes are far more complex than the media has been portraying. EG. They plan to close all train station ticket offices.
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 08:53
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Originally Posted by HOVIS
It's not all about the money. Train drivers are not the ones going on strike or demanding a 10% pay rise. Its the much lower paid ancillary and maintenance personnel that are in dispute. These strikes are far more complex than the media has been portraying. EG. They plan to close all train station ticket offices.
I get it. Remove the infrastructure and everything grinds to a halt. I did wonder, as we have a distant relative Avanti main line train driver (now retired). who was on some serious money and I couldn't see him striking as one of the downtrodden masses.
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Old 17th Dec 2022, 08:35
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Originally Posted by Less Hair
1000 trained policemen should be available anytime?
I doubt it. Some basic research suggests a Border Force officer, once security vetted, requires at least 3 months of training to be operational. And another 3 months to be fully trained in everything. I'm guessing, like anything of this nature, it's the years of experience that make the difference in being efficient and effective.
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