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Old 30th Jul 2022, 11:04
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Co-pilot exits the aircraft during the approach for an emergency landing...

At KRDU airport yesterday. The aircraft had a main right gear issue.

Very weird and I can't wait to hear the captain's version of this story.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/mystery-su...012938183.html

Body found about 4 hours after the incident.

https://www.newsobserver.com/news/lo...263974426.html

Last edited by Pilot DAR; 31st Jul 2022 at 17:27. Reason: We'll give the copilot some professional courtesy that maybe it was an accidental departure
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Old 30th Jul 2022, 11:38
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What’s the odds he was trying to do a inspection of the gear ?
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"A video of the landing shared by ABC 11 appears to show that the plane's right landing gear did not open"
You don't often hear of gear retraction/extension issues on the C212.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
You don't often hear of gear retraction/extension issues on the C212.
Yep, that's the first thing that came to my mind too when reading the initial news-heads' comments.

It shouldn't take long to determine what happened to the R MLG. The rest of the story should be pretty interesting.
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KAPAC, That was my thought too.
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Is there even a door on the RHS of the fuselage you could wrestle/inspect the gear from? Through the #2 engine prop-wash?
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https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...710Z/NR20/KRDU

that track is interesting, and so is the flight history.
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Full video of the landing...no Right Wheel »»»

https://www.wral.com/on-cam-plane-ma...-rdu/20395379/
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Originally Posted by Magplug View Post
Is there even a door on the RHS of the fuselage you could wrestle/inspect the gear from? Through the #2 engine prop-wash?
I wondered the same thing. The available pix of the accident airplane aren't close enough to see if there's a door on the right side. Looking at CASA 212 pix in general shows some have a right door and some don't.

In any event, would it even be possible to push such a door open far enough to see anything ?
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
I wondered the same thing. The available pix of the accident airplane aren't close enough to see if there's a door on the right side. Looking at CASA 212 pix in general shows some have a right door and some don't.

In any event, would it even be possible to push such a door open far enough to see anything ?
Picture here shows the aircraft in question has the RH door. Man Falls From Cargo Plane After Botched Landing Near Fort Bragg In Bizarre Incident (msn.com)
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Longtimer,

I guess the post-accident photo does show a RH door...if I look hard enough.

But the picture of that airplane, N497CA, being used for parachute stuff also shows a door on the left side. So, maybe it has doors on both sides ?
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https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/9857248


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"It shouldn't take long to determine what happened to the R MLG. The rest of the story should be pretty interesting."

Reported as a hard landing at that 50' by 4000' grass strip. PLane departed and reported the right gear "problem".

"Is there even a door on the RHS of the fuselage you could wrestle/inspect the gear from? Through the #2 engine prop-wash?"


Since it is used for airdrop/parachute training by the mil and other users opening the rear ramp would be the preferred way of viewing the gear rather than a door forward of the props.
But, I think you might be able to see enough from the windows in any case. Leaning out the ramp or any door without a chute or restraint doesn't seem very wise for this young man. RIP.
Another option would obviously be to do a tower fly by to check the gear. Perhaps the Capt was concerned about other damage as well? Should be an interesting debrief. Tragic.
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Originally Posted by KAPAC View Post
What’s the odds he was trying to do a inspection of the gear ?
Could have tried it from the tail gate and lost his grip. The picture below shows it as open.



On a side note, apparently they lost the wheel after a hard landing were they managed to get airborne again.

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Originally Posted by DIBO View Post
That's pretty clear...
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Originally Posted by ehwatezedoing View Post
On a side note, apparently they lost the wheel after a hard landing were they managed to get airborne again.
That brings this into a bit more focus. (Instructional flight?) Guess follows:
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Get that box down even with no gear on a grass strip should be no problem. So why bother opening doors or ramps. With enough fuel you can make a tower fly by or let another plane have a look. But without a chute fitted on your back, why open a hatch? Usual procedure learned from WW2, get all the available gear down and make a nice landing as the pilot did. Wonder what the real story is.
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The CASA-212 is a fixed gear ship with rugged landing gear for rough strip operations. Very surprising to hear of a gear leg or hub failure. The NTSB analysis will hopefully expose what the hard landing damaged and how.

Checking the gear without a harness is likely the reason for the fall. Sad to see a young aspiring pilot lose his life. RIP
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The unnamed pilot told Wake County investigators that Crooks leapt from the aircraft before their emergency landing attempt, unsuccessfully aiming toward a body of water.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...rgency-landing
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Originally Posted by hans brinker View Post
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...710Z/NR20/KRDU

that track is interesting, and so is the flight history.

saved you a click
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