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Ukraine and associated airspace

Old 3rd Mar 2022, 16:59
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Perhaps it is a story.

F0402/22 NOTAMR F0400/22
A) CZVR CZEG B) 2202271638 C) 2205251600EST
E) ALL AIRCRAFT OWNED, CHARTERED OR OPERATED OR OTHERWISE CONTROLED (sic)
BY A PERSON CONNECTED WITH RUSSIA, OR WHICH IS REGISTERED IN
RUSSIA, AND ALL OPERATORS HOLDING AN AIR OPERATOR CERTIFICATE
(AOC) ISSUED BY THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION AUTHORITIES ARE
PROHIBITED TO ENTER, EXIT OR OVERFLY CANADA'S AIRSPACE.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 17:49
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Hmm, any images of the large all-terrain utility vehicle?
Probably these vehicles:



Diary of expedition MLAE-2022

There is probably more to this than meets the eye. These vehicles have been driving around on the polar ice since 2013. Affirming sovereignty in the Canadian Arctic has been an ongoing issue for the Canadian Government. It's probably a hot-button issue now.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 17:56
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Originally Posted by India Four Two View Post
Perhaps it is a story.
Maybe.

My understanding is that Transport Canada has yet to rule on whether the NOTAM has been violated by the arrival of Russian passengers on an Austrian-owned/operated, Caymans-registered aircraft.

Time will tell.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 18:23
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I expect the key issue will be "Who was the charterer?".

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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 21:21
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I have emailed the Bermudan CAA to see if they are going to withdraw all Russian VB/VP/VQ- registered aircraft,as Bermuda is a British Overseas Territory. So far ,no reply....
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 21:46
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Volga Depnr AN 124 in CYYZ

Saw one parked in the penalty box as we taxied by today. It will be interesting to see whether it will ever be released.
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Old 3rd Mar 2022, 22:37
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Originally Posted by sycamore View Post
I have emailed the Bermudan CAA to see if they are going to withdraw all Russian VB/VP/VQ- registered aircraft,as Bermuda is a British Overseas Territory. So far ,no reply....
You'll need to send a few more emails - the VP/VQ prefixes are used by Anguilla, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Falkland Islands, Montserrat and Turks & Caicos as well as Bermuda.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
You'll need to send a few more emails - the VP/VQ prefixes are used by Anguilla, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Falkland Islands, Montserrat and Turks & Caicos as well as Bermuda.
You will want to check with M- and T7- as well as the number of N- aircraft registered through the Bank of Utah Trustee etc... which is a large number of US aircraft beneficially owned by foreigners through a trust.
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Originally Posted by boaclhryul View Post
Unless chartered by Russians? "...Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) prohibiting Russian aircraft (owned, chartered, or certified)..."
This aircraft is owned by a russian whichever way he tries to hide it. Flown by russian pilots. I have had dealings with these people. The owner plans to drive around the earth, via the Poles. That will probably get delayed for a while. A UK company has been assisting them in the polar preparations.
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Originally Posted by Alex Hammerstein View Post
I see that AFL7030 is now well into Polish air space. Have Poland not banned them from their space?
Repatriation flight for Russian nationals trapped in Hungary. Similar flight going to Larnaca.

More flights planned for the weekend, to Munich, Geneva and Amsterdam.
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Old 4th Mar 2022, 22:24
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Regarding IJM's Dassault Falcon 900EX (VP-CVS) from GVA arrived YZF Mar 1 11:59.
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Pilots, owner of plane that brought Russian to Yellowknife fined
by Ethan Butterfield
Northern News Services Limited 2022.03.04

Transport Canada said Friday, March 4 that the plane, which was grounded once authorities at the airport discovered a Russian had arrived on board, would be allowed to leave, but not with its passenger.

The aircraft was operating in Canadian airspace in contravention of an order issued Feb. 27.

The Russian national aboard and both pilots were fined $3,000 apiece. The company that owns the plane, Swiss-based Dunard Engineering, was fined $15,000.
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Fines levied against those involved with Russian-controlled plane grounded in Yellowknife
Charter flight violated Canadian airspace restrictions, Transport Canada says
CBC News 2022.03.04

Sau Sau Liu, a senior communications advisor with Transport Canada, said in an email that the federal agency investigated the flight. Though the aircraft is not Russian-owned or registered, Transport Canada found it broke new airspace restrictions that were announced Feb. 27 in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Those restrictions closed Canada's airspace to any Russian-owned, operated or chartered aircraft.

Liu said Transport Canada is allowing the aircraft in question to operate in Canadian airspace so it can leave Yellowknife, but it can't have any passengers on board.

News of the flight broke Wednesday when the N.W.T.'s infrastructure minister, Diane Archie, told the Legislative Assembly the passengers had been en route to Resolute, Nunavut, as part of an Arctic expedition in a "large all-terrain utility vehicle."

As first reported by Cabin Radio on Wednesday, the expedition to the Arctic is likely the TransGlobal Car Expedition, where a team is attempting to cross every continent by vehicle.

The team includes Vasily Shakhnovsky, a Russian former oil and gas executive once reported by Forbes to have wealth well in excess of $1 billion, and Vasily Elagin, a Russian mountaineer and explorer.
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A) Fines seem inconsequential.
B) What of the passenger prevented from leaving with the aircraft ...

Edit: Flight History: VP-CVS. From YZF (ATD 2022.03.04 13:24) To GVA (STA 06:00)

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Old 4th Mar 2022, 23:01
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Originally Posted by oceancrosser View Post
This aircraft is owned by a Russian whichever way he tries to hide it. Flown by Russian pilots.
Evidently neither of these assertions appears to be correct.
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Old 5th Mar 2022, 09:59
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Evidently neither of these assertions appears to be correct.
Exactly what evidence appears to contradict the assertions... ?
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Evidently neither of these assertions appears to be correct.
Au contraire. There is nothing in the canadian news that contradicts what I wrote. Dunard Engineering of Switzerland has unclear ownership (exactly what expat Russians do). It was in the Panama papers. https://panama.data2www.com/e/10144695

As for the pilots, I am sure they have more than two. But I am looking at the business cards of the two I met. Russians.
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Old 5th Mar 2022, 10:21
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A) Fines seem inconsequential.
In this present day world context, yes. However, in Canada, maximum fines for offenses are prescribed by regulation, and those sound like maximums for the offense which could be applied to the situation. If the government had the authority to apply an immense fine which in this context, many of us would consider appropriate, there would otherwise be a chorus of complaint about unrestrained bureaucrats going rogue. What has been done sends a signal, which remaining socially acceptable in a normal life context in Canada.
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Old 5th Mar 2022, 11:59
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And yet certain UK and German 747 freight operators are still happily operating in the UK/EU/US.
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Old 5th Mar 2022, 12:48
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Originally Posted by andrasz View Post
Exactly what evidence appears to contradict the assertions... ?
See the link in Eddy's post.

Transport Canada explicitly stated that the aircraft is not Russian-owned, and identified only the passengers as being Russian nationals.
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Expensive russian charter

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...ntering-canada

Though I suppose if you can afford a vacation in the high arctic the fine is small change.

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DaveReidUK I am with oceancrosser on this...
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In related news, Aeroflot just announced the suspension of all international operations as of 8 March...
(Some news sites suggesting to avoid aircraft being repossessed by lessors)
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