Dubai near disaster..?

[172_driver]

Can R/T really be blamed for everything? The minds of the pilots were making (incorrect) assumptions at the time but they were both perfectly convinced they were doing everything right.
Remeber to engage your brain before doing something that can kill you.
Not sure what else we can do, a pace car driving around in circles on the runway before you're released?

Daniel Kahneman has written a good book, Thinking fast and slow.

[procede]

Emirates is not having a great time with it's 777's. Diversion to St. Petersburg after "control problems" over the Barentz sea on route to SFO.

Incident: Emirates B773 over Barents Sea on Jan 18th 2022, control problems
https://simpleflying.com/emirates-77...utm_source=pop

Ps: I doubt 5G is an issue. ;-)

[EDLB]

That should be in another thread. The Mods may split this. Winding up in Petersburg due to control problems is another significant event. With this young 777 can be an EK or a Boeing issue.

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by procede

Emirates is not having a great time with it's 777's. Diversion to St. Petersburg after "control problems" over the Barentz sea on route to SFO.

Incident: Emirates B773 over Barents Sea on Jan 18th 2022, control problems
https://simpleflying.com/emirates-77...utm_source=pop

Ps: I doubt 5G is an issue. ;-)

Emirates haven't operated B773s since 2018 - nowadays their Boeing fleet is almost all B77Ws plus a handful of B77Ls.

[FUMR]

Originally Posted by DaveReidUK

Emirates haven't operated B773s since 2018 - nowadays their Boeing fleet is almost all B77Ws plus a handful of B77Ls.

You are splitting hairs DRUK. The B77W is an B777-300ER.

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by FUMR

You are splitting hairs DRUK. The B77W is an B777-300ER.

Not really - there are several perfectly good reasons why ICAO allocates separate designators to -300 ERs and non-ERs.

[procede]

Originally Posted by DaveReidUK

Not really - there are several perfectly good reasons why ICAO allocates separate designators to -300 ERs and non-ERs.

The wingspan was increased from 60.93 to 65.8 meters and with that the fuel capacity was increased from 117,340 liters to 181,283 liters.

Most important issues are gate planning (next to higher air navigation charges and landing fees). I have heard some stories that unnoticed last minute changes in aircraft type from non-ER to an ER's caused wingtips to get uncomfortably close at the gate.

But I doubt that has anything to do with this incident.

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by procede

But I doubt that has anything to do with this incident.

True.

Well, other than the fact that the incident didn't involve a variant that EK has none of.