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MD-80 crashed after takeoff HoustonTexas

Old 19th Oct 2021, 18:37
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MD-80 crashed after takeoff HoustonTexas

An MD-80 crashed shortly after takeoff and over ran - All 21 on board survived no significant injuries. Aircraft destroyed by fire. cant post links yet sorry
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 19:14
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Tweet with photos, including one which clearly shows tire tracks off the departure end of the runway to the crash site.
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 19:15
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Aircraft down outside of Houston Executive - 21 passengers - no reported injuries

few details - but it appears no serious injuries.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-58974696
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 20:12
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MD-80 crashed after takeoff Houston Texas

"After takeoff" might be a bit of an exaggeration.
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 20:12
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RTE news : Plane crashes in Texas, all 21 on board survive

http://www.rte.ie/news/us/2021/1019/...s-plane-crash/
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 20:16
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Control locks?
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 20:24
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NSTB report for the Ameristar MD-83 overrun stated the MD-80 series has no elevator gust lock.
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 20:32
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CG too far forward?
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 20:36
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Could be - but there are a lot of "usual suspects" for failure-to-fly overruns: forgot to set flaps/trim; brakes dragging; W&B calculation error (but with only 21 aboard, probably not overweight); bird-strike and/or engine failure (although it doesn't seem the track veered much.)

Weather is unlikely (winds were <7 kts and variable) as is runway contamination in this season.

Glad everyone got out, althrough again the small pax load probably helped there.
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 20:52
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MD87 Crash Houston 19 Oct 2021 - well done all 21 on board.

There is a short report & some video here .. Lucky 21 people out , well done all ...
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/269063
https://abc7news.com/fire-erupts-in-...op4Hd-9vSF-P-U
https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/...04150674540586
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 20:55
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This sounds very familiar to a March 2017 accident:

https://www.flyingmag.com/plane-carr...es-off-runway/

If I recall correctly the plane had been left parked overnight and strong winds damaged the elevators to the extent the pilot flying couldnít rotate and he had to abort above V1.
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 20:56
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Were there strong winds overnight? Wondering if itís another geometric locking of the elevator control tabs.
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 21:01
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FAA have confirmed that the aircraft did not get airborne at any point.
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Old 19th Oct 2021, 21:04
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I guess it was operating under part 135?
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Privately owned by construction company with friends and family headed to Boston to watch Houston / Boston MLB playoff game.
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Old 20th Oct 2021, 00:09
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Video of the takeoff run shows a distinct puff of smoke out of the left engine shortly after the roll started. These are very lucky people. There was quite an explosion with dense black smoke, and there is nothing left of the cabin at all.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/te...orted/2774330/
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Old 20th Oct 2021, 00:55
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Could be many things that could cause that....Overweight, Ground stall (unlikely), wrong configuration etc...
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Old 20th Oct 2021, 02:57
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makes sense both reversers stowed and only blast marks on the grass behind the tail from the right engine
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Old 20th Oct 2021, 03:24
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As PAX, I have found it interesting to see that - when the report comes out - checking what was said in R&N. You would be amused at the number of times the forum nails the problem very quickly.
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Old 20th Oct 2021, 07:22
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The wreckage is completely burnt out making this look very dramatic, but it is hard to judge the state of the aircraft when it came to a stop. The distance from the departure end of the runway looks like a rejected takeoff gone wrong. The fact that everyone got off suggests that the plane was reasonably intact initially and caught fire subsequent to the overrun. Reports of potential engine problems (puff of smoke), no thrust reversers and a fairly ancient airliner turned into an oversize private jet would make me curious as to who was flying, how current they were and what was the maintenance state of the aircraft. Good news that they all got off.
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