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Philippine crash
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Philippine crash
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57711597
C130 miltary troop transport with 92 people on board, incl 3 pilots and 5 crew. The rest were army personnel... plane missed the runway and it was trying to regain power but failed and crashed,"
Initial report of at least 17 fatalities but also 40 rescued, plane on fire, only tail visible.
Philippine crash
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57711597
C130 miltary troop transport with 92 people on board, incl 3 pilots and 5 crew. The rest were army personnel... plane missed the runway and it was trying to regain power but failed and crashed,"
Initial report of at least 17 fatalities but also 40 rescued, plane on fire, only tail visible.
Last edited by A0283; 4th Jul 2021 at 09:12.
More photos here - please delete if deemed insensitive
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/phi...WO3JBNZA63OTA/
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/phi...WO3JBNZA63OTA/
Fron the BBC :
Philippines military plane crash kills at least 45 but dozens survive - BBC News
Trying to make sense of that, was it doing a parachute drop ?
Philippines military plane crash kills at least 45 but dozens survive - BBC News
A statement from the regional military force, Joint Task Force Sulu, said "a number of soldiers were seen jumping out of the aircraft before it hit the ground, sparing them from the explosion caused by the crash".
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Impression that I got it was just a troop transport mission, so not a jump. But could mean they lowered the ramp for example at some point.
There is no information about using the forward door.
Dont know, but is there a gravity drop mechanism for the ramp that can be used in emergencies?
There is no information about using the forward door.
Dont know, but is there a gravity drop mechanism for the ramp that can be used in emergencies?
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Link to The Manila Times and Channel News Asia with at least 1 or 2 photos I'd not seen elsewhere, plus local commentary.
https://www.manilatimes.net/2021/07/...-chief/1805695
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...-jolo-15153068
https://www.manilatimes.net/2021/07/...-chief/1805695
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...-jolo-15153068
Google maps eyeball of the Jolo runway lenght is close to 6000 feet. Should be plenty for a C130 even for normal pilot skills. The photos show, that they did an extreme overrun past the quarry, so my bet is, that they did not touch down even mid runway. Is there a FDR on those C130?
Jolo Island is a major base for Abu Sayyaf Islamic rebels and just about qualifies as a war zone, given the level of the insurgency. Hostile action, such as enemy fire would need to be included in the possible cause list.
It looks like a classic unstabalized approach: not fully configured, too fast, lands hard possibly bursting tires and runs out of runway. That approach should have been thrown away long before they crossed the fence.
Technical problems with the aircraft may have been a factor, I'd want to know how they got into that situation in the first place and why they didn't go around.
Fear of losing face is all too common in Asia, CRM could be difficult if a senior officer was Captain and the PF. He won't want to have doubt cast on his abilities by being unable to land and a junior co pilot would be very reluctant to question him.
Technical problems with the aircraft may have been a factor, I'd want to know how they got into that situation in the first place and why they didn't go around.
Fear of losing face is all too common in Asia, CRM could be difficult if a senior officer was Captain and the PF. He won't want to have doubt cast on his abilities by being unable to land and a junior co pilot would be very reluctant to question him.
