Brexit and the Aviation industry
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Balpa need to be hot on demanding that the crews have a work permit/visa/RtR (or be British) if they remain based in the UK for more than 90 days. Will Balpa do that? Will they 'eck as like!
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Ah, of course, thanks PBW. On the other hand, the Irish pilots might not be too keen to convert their nice EASA licence to the CAA one (after the end of the validation period). And it's interesting that Aer Lingus are G registering the planes, rather than BA wet leasing EI reg planes from AL.
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I don’t think that these plans were made only last week. EI probably went for worst case scenario - no deal - mitigation and deemed this the best solution. You can’t have two EASA licenses but can you have one EASA and one CAA license? In that case problem solved.
These foreign pilots might also be BALPA members...
These foreign pilots might also be BALPA members...
Think these plans are more Covid than Brexit related - MAN and other regional UK airports have lost US flights, and EI now have more a/c than they need due to the reduction in demand.
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They're both IAG. Hypothetically, an aer Lingus wet lease to BA is a way they could avoid needing to reregister the EI- planes to fly UK/US routes (not that I want to give them ideas)! So it's interesting that they didn't do that.
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One problem with having an EASA license and living in the UK is that currently there seem to be no AMEs that can carry out any EASA medicals. My one expires in the coming months and I have to travel to mainland Europe and find a doctor. Anyone aware of AMEs in the UK already being EASA approved?
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IAA licence exchange SOLI
Does anybody know if the IAA are still performing licence exchanges.
I received an email on 23rd December informing me my IAA licence / Medical was ready for exchange and to send my original UK ATPL & Medical. In the same email it said the offices were now closed until 4th January.
Due to Covid-19 Ireland is in lockdown and the IAA licensing department are working from home. I can’t seem to get a reply wether the are still accepting physical licence exchanges to complete the soli process (post 31st December) and wether this is possible with the office unstaffed.
Needless to say, I’m reluctant to post my physical licence only to have no idea if or when I’ll get my IAA one sent (if at all).
Anyone managed to get in contact? Any information would be appreciated.
Thank you.
I received an email on 23rd December informing me my IAA licence / Medical was ready for exchange and to send my original UK ATPL & Medical. In the same email it said the offices were now closed until 4th January.
Due to Covid-19 Ireland is in lockdown and the IAA licensing department are working from home. I can’t seem to get a reply wether the are still accepting physical licence exchanges to complete the soli process (post 31st December) and wether this is possible with the office unstaffed.
Needless to say, I’m reluctant to post my physical licence only to have no idea if or when I’ll get my IAA one sent (if at all).
Anyone managed to get in contact? Any information would be appreciated.
Thank you.
I’ve been trying to exchange licence since November. There is no one to speak to by phone and email replies take forever. It seems that they need someone at the office to generate/print/post (?) new licences and right now there’s no one there.
good luck - please post any progress on here.
good luck - please post any progress on here.
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On 12th December I received the email stating licence and medical were ready for dispatch. I dropped my licence and medical at the Edinburgh depot on the morning of the 14th. Received my Irish documentation back on 24th December.
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Thank you for your reply. That sounds hopeful that the offices are manned for licence transfers even with Covid-19 restrictions.
The second part of my question is more specifically regarding licences that are ready but not physically transferred before the 31st December deadline. Anyone else with any info?
Many thanks.
The second part of my question is more specifically regarding licences that are ready but not physically transferred before the 31st December deadline. Anyone else with any info?
Many thanks.
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You'll be fine. IAA are honouring all applications received prior to 31/12/20. EASA moved the goalposts tail end of last year which then meant the process had to be completed prior to 31/12/20, but 'completed' simply meant the new NAA had to have received you medical records etc by then. Transfers can still happen in 2021 as long as the aforementioned was achieved.
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Thanks Magpie32,
I read more NAA SOLI legislation and EASA Brexit documentation than I ever care to think about again, but still couldn’t find an official definition of ‘completed’.
I appreciate your feedback. It looks like my licence will be doing 100% more travelling than I will be over the coming weeks & months.
Keep well.
I read more NAA SOLI legislation and EASA Brexit documentation than I ever care to think about again, but still couldn’t find an official definition of ‘completed’.
I appreciate your feedback. It looks like my licence will be doing 100% more travelling than I will be over the coming weeks & months.
Keep well.
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im trying to do the physical exchange as well from UK FCL to IAA. I sent my license just after Xmas (timing at employer request), the courier couldn’t deliver as office shut on Monday 4 Jan. I email asking if office is actually shut (maybe wrong address or something) and the auto reply back then said offices all shut due Covid, and licensing staff working from home. I work in eu on eu airplane. My license did get delivered to IAA headquarters the next day. but it would appear someone needs to go in and physically press print.
Surely this can’t be right? I hope I’m wrong. Surely this should be able to be accomplished through home working?.
when I phone I get receptionist only who directs you to email address.
I think the volume of emails and phone calls they receive would decrease if they found a way like everyone else has of getting licenses to people. Digital would be lovely.
this is causing proper stress to me and my company. I’ve done my bit, started the SOLI process the minute I signed contract for new job in August after being made redundant.
im trying to do the physical exchange as well from UK FCL to IAA. I sent my license just after Xmas (timing at employer request), the courier couldn’t deliver as office shut on Monday 4 Jan. I email asking if office is actually shut (maybe wrong address or something) and the auto reply back then said offices all shut due Covid, and licensing staff working from home. I work in eu on eu airplane. My license did get delivered to IAA headquarters the next day. but it would appear someone needs to go in and physically press print.
Surely this can’t be right? I hope I’m wrong. Surely this should be able to be accomplished through home working?.
when I phone I get receptionist only who directs you to email address.
I think the volume of emails and phone calls they receive would decrease if they found a way like everyone else has of getting licenses to people. Digital would be lovely.
this is causing proper stress to me and my company. I’ve done my bit, started the SOLI process the minute I signed contract for new job in August after being made redundant.
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There isn't a definition of 'completed', and what there is from EASA is only advisory. Member State NAs are free to take whatever view they like of anything not covered either by implementing rules or AMCs (and so much isn't), hence the lack of information and varying positions. Last time I spoke to the IAA they were taking the view that Magpie reports above, that 'completed' means 'have received medical records'. Other NAAs - who knows?