2021 Paris Air Show cancelled
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2021 Paris Air Show cancelled
https://www.siae.fr/Data/ElFinder/s4...?_t=1607336224
Inevitable, I suppose. At least they gave plenty of notice.
Inevitable, I suppose. At least they gave plenty of notice.
the Paris Air Show has taken this inevitable decision in response tothe international health crisis
You haven't been there for a while? It's the biggest global industry meeting.
The PR part might be one thing but they have like how many 140k trade visitors? That is before the weekend and the public.
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You obviously have not been there for a long time . Everybody is there , and one the main objective is networking and exchanging business cards. The contracts might not be signed during that week but the contacts that led to those contracts will come from places like these. These shows are far, far more that Boeing or Airbus. It is a thousand of other aviation businesses that come up there . A lot of young people find a contact for a future job, or , during the open days , a vocation .
To come back to the cancellation , sad news, but expected.
You obviously have not been there for a long time . Everybody is there , and one the main objective is networking and exchanging business cards. The contracts might not be signed during that week but the contacts that led to those contracts will come from places like these. These shows are far, far more that Boeing or Airbus. It is a thousand of other aviation businesses that come up there . A lot of young people find a contact for a future job, or , during the open days , a vocation .
To come back to the cancellation , sad news, but expected.
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Maybe so. But as "ATC Watcher" already wrote, there is a lot more to these trade shows than just big business. If you want to build (with lots of public subsidies everywhere in the world) and operate flying machines, the most important thing is the tax- and ticket-paying public that you need to get behind you. And all the young people that you need to design, build and fly those aeroplanes in the decades to come.
I was introduced to aviaton by airshows and I got valuable inputs for my career from visits to Le Bourget as an university student in aerospace engineering. These trips to Paris were organised by the faculty of my university becaue they too knew well, how much motivation the future generation of engineers would draw from it.
So "big business", who cares? You can't sell aircraft that no one is designing for you.
I was introduced to aviaton by airshows and I got valuable inputs for my career from visits to Le Bourget as an university student in aerospace engineering. These trips to Paris were organised by the faculty of my university becaue they too knew well, how much motivation the future generation of engineers would draw from it.
So "big business", who cares? You can't sell aircraft that no one is designing for you.
When I worked in Aviation and went to these shows, it wasn't about contracts, it was about Networking. Drinking/eating with contacts, and making new contacts. Plus one saw planes that you don't see every day. Even the beancounters liked watching the displays.
I care OLDCHINA!!
I care so much that I am still active in visiting Airfields and Airports,linked to semi. pro Photography at my age of soon to be 80 years young.
I came from an impoverished and disadvantaged background.
The only thing which kept me sane from a very young age was a growing interest in Aircraft.
My escapism was, as soon as I could, I would spend hours at RAF Colerne in the late 40s early fifties. watching all the movements .
This suited my temperament as I could be on my own for awhile away from home circumstances.
I found that later in life when facing and dealing with serious problems that I automatically turned to my Interest in Aviation/Aircraft .
Every time it has help me deal with serious trials and tribulations when they have proved to be a problem.
So I may be a avid "Spotter" and maybe a bit of an Anorak, but OLD CHINA do not decry people like me out of hand.
There but for the grace of whoever!
I came from an impoverished and disadvantaged background.
The only thing which kept me sane from a very young age was a growing interest in Aircraft.
My escapism was, as soon as I could, I would spend hours at RAF Colerne in the late 40s early fifties. watching all the movements .
This suited my temperament as I could be on my own for awhile away from home circumstances.
I found that later in life when facing and dealing with serious problems that I automatically turned to my Interest in Aviation/Aircraft .
Every time it has help me deal with serious trials and tribulations when they have proved to be a problem.
So I may be a avid "Spotter" and maybe a bit of an Anorak, but OLD CHINA do not decry people like me out of hand.
There but for the grace of whoever!
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Having worked a number of Farnborough and Le Bourget shows in a previous life (though sadly none of the other more exotic venues), I can vouch for the fact that business does indeed get done at those events - usually far away from the cameras and press conferences.
The value of getting people face-to-face shouldn't be underestimated, even when a background of noisy fast jets sometimes makes conversation difficult.
The value of getting people face-to-face shouldn't be underestimated, even when a background of noisy fast jets sometimes makes conversation difficult.
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Agreed, Paris is very efficient to have 10-20 meetings that do not justify dedicated trips. And invite crucial customers, partners, suppliers for a long sit with with good wine and food and hear how they feel about what's happening. Specially real late at the hotel bar. Plus you always meet people you didn't expect to see (again), colleagues of a few decades ago.
As you say it's not about Airbus and Boeing hanging around in Chalets, uniforms trying looking important, it's a about the thousands of businesses and people from all parts of aerospace, all countries being in the same place.
Paris is the biggest gathering of all, with the traditional chaotic public transport, heat, rain, drama. Wonder when the last one was cancelled, WW2 I guess...
Paris Air Show 1921, rights: https://www.gettyimages.dk
Agreed, Paris is very efficient to have 10-20 meetings that do not justify dedicated trips. And invite crucial customers, partners, suppliers for a long sit with with good wine and food and hear how they feel about what's happening. Specially real late at the hotel bar. Plus you always meet people you didn't expect to see (again), colleagues of a few decades ago.
As you say it's not about Airbus and Boeing hanging around in Chalets, uniforms trying looking important, it's a about the thousands of businesses and people from all parts of aerospace, all countries being in the same place.
Paris is the biggest gathering of all, with the traditional chaotic public transport, heat, rain, drama. Wonder when the last one was cancelled, WW2 I guess...
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Regarding rain: One year (1987 maybe?) my wife went along with me to Le Bourget. Durnig the public day we were caught out by a thunderstorm while at the outside static display. No way to get back to the exhibition halls dry... So together with at least 1000 other people, kids in teeshirts and businessmen in suit and tie we sought shelter under the wings of the Antonow An-225 Mriya. This changed the view of my wife regarding the usefulness of aircraft forever :-) Statistically I guess that someone else following this thread may have been under that wing together with us that day!
I went to the Salons at Le Bourget, 2007 - 2017, and got either soaked or sunburnt! Best one was 2011, and since then they went downhill...
i didnt go to last one in 2019, but it sounds like I didnt miss much....
Another one bites the dust...
i didnt go to last one in 2019, but it sounds like I didnt miss much....
Another one bites the dust...
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Thanks Keesje , one additional point for the non-believers, is the huge money all these companies are investing in participating to those airshows, being Farnborough or le Bourget, If it was not worth their while they would not come back year after year.
and an off-Thread if the mods agree:,
the photo you posted from 1921 shows how advanced some people were 100 years ago, this prototype on the front looks a bit like Virgin Galactic Space 2 craft no ?..
and an off-Thread if the mods agree:,
the photo you posted from 1921 shows how advanced some people were 100 years ago, this prototype on the front looks a bit like Virgin Galactic Space 2 craft no ?..
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You are absolutely right, Longtimer, I just read in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung ( FAZ ) that Lufthansa are making 1000 pilots redundant ( 500 Captains and 500 First Officers ). Like you say, there are other problems in the aviation world...!
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You read too fast BEA, it is only a threat from Spohr to force VC (pilot Union) to give away more , and like always in Germany things will probably get sorted out behind the scenes, but whatever happens will not be good at all for pilots and cabin crew at the moment. Our whole industry is under very difficult times this winter.
