FedEx 767 landing without left main gear extended
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They apparently tried manual gear extension, the main gear doors appeared to be open on landing.
As far as the cockpit rope evacuation, remember one of the FedEx MEM crashes where the crew was faulted for tossing out flight kits and Christmas presents before all the folks were out of the plane? Can't blame them for being anxious to get out with a report of flames trailing the plane on landing. Do the FedEx B-763's have door slides? Or inertial reels on the entry door?
As far as the cockpit rope evacuation, remember one of the FedEx MEM crashes where the crew was faulted for tossing out flight kits and Christmas presents before all the folks were out of the plane? Can't blame them for being anxious to get out with a report of flames trailing the plane on landing. Do the FedEx B-763's have door slides? Or inertial reels on the entry door?
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Well done and nicely stopped on the centreline
Personally, being the big uncoordinated Gumby (Monty Python fans will know this one
) that I am I would definitely have tried the slide first! Those evacuation ropes really don't agree with me unless there's 1,500^ licking at my nether regions!
Personally, being the big uncoordinated Gumby (Monty Python fans will know this one
) that I am I would definitely have tried the slide first! Those evacuation ropes really don't agree with me unless there's 1,500^ licking at my nether regions!
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Assuming these are the 'new build' 767Fs (i.e. not some STC conversion), yes the main door has a slide. But the regs say you need to assume half the exits are blocked, so you need at least two ways out - hence the ropes out the flight deck windows. No idea why they didn't go out the main door though...
Assuming these are the 'new build' 767Fs (i.e. not some STC conversion), yes the main door has a slide. But the regs say you need to assume half the exits are blocked, so you need at least two ways out - hence the ropes out the flight deck windows. No idea why they didn't go out the main door though...
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You might want to check that, the UPS B-763's are not conversions and I'm told they don't have slides, they have inertia reels.
My guess is that they saw the glow of the sparks on the left side and didn't want to take the chance of evacuating into a wing fire or something.
My guess is that they saw the glow of the sparks on the left side and didn't want to take the chance of evacuating into a wing fire or something.
I figured it was a new build freighter. I've done flight tests on FedEx 767Fs and they most definitely had a slide on the main door.
Where are you hearing 'no slides'? As I noted before, the regs say you need (at least) two ways out.
Where are you hearing 'no slides'? As I noted before, the regs say you need (at least) two ways out.
The reporter in the clip above mentioned that the sparks resulted from one of the engines that was scraping "on the pavement". Weird runway at LAX if it has a pavement. Who is it there for? Has it a zebra crossing as well?
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Assuming these are the 'new build' 767Fs (i.e. not some STC conversion), yes the main door has a slide. But the regs say you need to assume half the exits are blocked, so you need at least two ways out - hence the ropes out the flight deck windows. No idea why they didn't go out the main door though...
This video of the approach and landing appears to shown both MLG doors open:
One of the crew reportedly suffered a foot injury during the evacuation.
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If the US reporter had meant what we Brits call a pavement, he'd have called it a sidewalk.
Across the Pond, pavement simply means a hard, paved surface. Like a runway, in fact. As in PCN.
If the US reporter had meant what we Brits call a pavement, he'd have called it a sidewalk.
Across the Pond, pavement simply means a hard, paved surface. Like a runway, in fact. As in PCN.
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I confirm that ours (all factory-built freighters) don't have an escape slide, the two options are inertial reels close to the main door, or the ropes at the cockpit windows. Maybe it is an option now and FedEx opted for it.
I confirm that ours (all factory-built freighters) don't have an escape slide, the two options are inertial reels close to the main door, or the ropes at the cockpit windows. Maybe it is an option now and FedEx opted for it.
Dear Yoda,
The inertial reels on the L1 door may not have worked as advertised due to the left wing down attitude. The left side of the jet is also closest to the (perceived) threat. Hence, the cockpit escape rope on the FO side was used.
The inertial reels on the L1 door may not have worked as advertised due to the left wing down attitude. The left side of the jet is also closest to the (perceived) threat. Hence, the cockpit escape rope on the FO side was used.
I think a few of us are learning something new today. No slides on some large aircraft. I never would have guessed.
As for the idea of the inertial reel not working at door L1 due to left wing down, is it really that much closer to the ground than door R1?
As for the idea of the inertial reel not working at door L1 due to left wing down, is it really that much closer to the ground than door R1?
The inertial reel set up on the 74F involves a diaper harness and a jump. If you reach the ground before the deceleration, it would really suck. I assume the same level of suck would occur on a canted over 76.
Although; seeing one of the flight crew doing the snail crawl away from the jet, with the CFR guy in hot pursuit wasn’t funny either. Unless you’ve got a slightly sick sense of humor 🤞.
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LiveATC edited audio from SOCAL Approach, the final tower frequency of 127.85 apparently did not record.
Zip files which will open on most computers, not on most phones or tablets.
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The Part 2 file posted here earlier didn't have both sides of the ATC conversation about whether to land gear up, a better edit of the final vectors for the landing is posted below.
Zip files which will open on most computers, not on most phones or tablets.
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The Part 2 file posted here earlier didn't have both sides of the ATC conversation about whether to land gear up, a better edit of the final vectors for the landing is posted below.
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