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Ethiopian Airlines’ Boeing 777F (ET-ARH) on fire

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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 19:07
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Originally Posted by Denti
Boeing and Ethiopian.. Doesn't seem to fit very well these last few years. Good thing that apparently nobody was hurt this time, just another write off.
What an utterly ludicrous - and grossly irresponsible insinuation.

How could a cargo fire on the ground have anything remotely to do with gross mishandling of the aircraft by supposedly trained pilots who hadn't been given access to, or taken notice of mandatory safety bulletins, let alone months of international news coverage?

That's just irresponsible, imflammatory **** stirring. End of.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 20:35
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If it's anything like fireworks then one faulty unit on fire could cause a chain reaction, as far as Li ion batteries go.
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 22:13
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Folks are speculating that it was batteries, why would an inbound flight to Shanghai from Brussels be bringing in Lithium batteries?
4 hours after landing, inbound cargo was likely already gone, and at least some outbound cargo loaded.
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Old 23rd Jul 2020, 13:29
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4 hours after landing, inbound cargo was likely already gone, and at least some outbound cargo loaded.
Or they have found a way to make beer and chocolate catch fire.
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Old 23rd Jul 2020, 13:38
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What goods would be stored in the area just forward of the tail fin?

I am reminded of the DC10 fire at I believe ORD and the Valuejet fire in the Everglades
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Old 23rd Jul 2020, 14:57
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That's a very good and very pertinent question ...

Taking a wild guess, and assuming that the aircraft was being loaded, given that the 777 Freighter has the Main Cargo Door on the rear part of the fuselage, which is very useful to avoid "wheelies" on the ramp, they loaded the main deck forward of the main cargo door, then they loaded the "interesting cargo" in the rear ... and did not had time to load the last cargo, which is the one that goes in front of the Cargo Door itself.
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Old 23rd Jul 2020, 15:47
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Originally Posted by Stick Flying
But DGR stated quite categorically it wasn't freight dangerous goods.
It could have been undeclared DG or a quantity of Li Batteries that was less than the requirement for declaration...
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Old 23rd Jul 2020, 17:26
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That could be repairable.
Quite a few million $, but could be done. Depends on the market value of the airframe due to age and hours/cycles.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 07:59
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Best come back and review your comment when the investigation is out.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 09:45
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Originally Posted by lomapaseo
What goods would be stored in the area just forward of the tail fin?
There are 5 (125x96 inch) positions at and aft of the main-deck cargo door (MCD) arranged with 2 x 2 side-by-side and 1 centre position at the far aft. They are, for obvious reasons, usually the first to be off-loaded and the last to be loaded. You can load just about anything there, including 16ft ULDs, except restricted commodities which need to be accessible to the crew during flight.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 10:18
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Always loaded the radio active stuff at the back.
We had a hi-loader catch fire once due to hydraulic leak. Fortunately it was moved back from the aircraft before it got too bad.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 13:20
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Informative response

What do others think about the possibility of storing spare aircraft servicing parts there in case of an AOG at an off-base. That location might serve as light loads only and off limits to normal cargo
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 13:35
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Flyaway spares kit IF carried (normally not) is placed in the belly hold cargo, never main deck.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 14:18
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Ethiopian Airlines Statement on Incident ET-ARH – Shanghai Pudong Airport

Although proper investigation has been started by the country of occurrence and the country of registration and operation, preliminary information revealed that in the final preparation for taxi out, fire was detected in the main deck. The crew reported to ATC and the handling company and asked for help as per the procedure. Meanwhile, the fire spread in the cabin until the handling company and the airport emergency unit arrived at the scene of the incident. The fire damaged the upper structure of the aircraft before it was brought under control by the airport emergency services.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 15:24
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They should be happy that they did not make it into the air. Would have been very likely fatal so a thorough investigation should be done.
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 16:52
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What is wrong with ethiopian rear part of the aeroplanes?
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Old 24th Jul 2020, 21:52
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Latest I just heard from a private source in Shanghai is that it was a "mis-declared" battery shipment. Any official declaration yet?
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Old 25th Jul 2020, 00:54
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I wonder what the difference is between declared vs mis-declared battery shipment once it gets aboard an airplane?
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Old 25th Jul 2020, 00:56
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Where do used up and recalled Lithium batteries generally go for recycling or landfill, etcetera? I had two lifetime-warranty Rigid Tool batteries go to the their warranty shop with the tool and charger...came back with new batteries. Also a fine-working complicated Swiss electric pruner battery recalled for unknown reason. Dealer sent a new battery after I returned a form with acknowledgement that original would be disposed properly.
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Old 25th Jul 2020, 02:17
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preliminary information revealed that in the final preparation for taxi out, fire was detected in the main deck. The crew reported to ATC and the handling company and asked for help as per the procedure. Meanwhile, the fire spread in the cabin until the handling company and the airport emergency unit arrived at the scene of the incident. The fire damaged the upper structure of the aircraft before it was brought under control by the airport emergency services.Ethiopian Airlines B777 freighter aircraft with registration number ET-ARH caught fire while loading cargo at Pudong Shanghai airport today, July 22, 2020. The aircraft was on a regular scheduled cargo service from Shanghai to Sao Paulo-Santiago via Addis Ababa.
https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/aa...t-22-july-2020

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