Easy Jet : Safety Culture : Using sickness absence to select for redundancy
Join Date: May 2013
Location: London
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I am pretty sure LIFO as a tie-breaker would be pretty uncontestable...depending on how strong the high priority selection criteria are. Easy wants to lose a hell of a lot of pilots, a demographic which is very similar in capability and performance. The only thing that really differentiates us is tolerance to fatigue and illness. Most pilots go for many years with very few sick episodes. Then one year something goes wrong and you're in and out of the Doctors for some ailment that in any other job would not even be the slightest issue. Using sick to differentiate in this job is just insane. But, then again it just follows the insanity of the law that defines it. For the record, I am in the firing line either way. But I would be more at ease losing my job fairly and not through some abhorrent malignant process that damages everybody from employees to passengers across all airlines.
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: North London at last
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
A LIFO plus option is most definitely viable. Some sickness adjustment to get rid of "targets". Proportional adjustment to eliminate disproportionate reduction of female pilots. Using sickness etc as a sole method of CR will not happen....it has far too many loopholes and will potentially tie up the airline in litigation for years.
The number will come down as well. 727 is worst case. TUI, Ryan and BA have ended up with far more realistic figures. TUI is zero. There is huge pressure being put on Johnson to end "fire and rehire" which is morally repugnant. This has some mileage yet before we see a final proposition.
The number will come down as well. 727 is worst case. TUI, Ryan and BA have ended up with far more realistic figures. TUI is zero. There is huge pressure being put on Johnson to end "fire and rehire" which is morally repugnant. This has some mileage yet before we see a final proposition.
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Somewhere or other
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The history of that case as I understand it was that Ryanair took action against Bellow and lost. I haven't read the full judgement, but the finding was, "The restrictions on employment in “any business in competition” with Ryanair and “in any capacity” are too wide". I'm not sure how that reflects badly on him?
It's well known those clauses are unenforceable. How specifically was easyJet materially mislead?
It's well known those clauses are unenforceable. How specifically was easyJet materially mislead?
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: 2019
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
115. On 1st July, 2019 Mr. Bellew sent to Ms. Bennett what he described as a copy of his current contract with Ryanair. What was attached was a copy of the letter of 10th October, 2017, only. He wrote that, “My Irish solicitor has reviewed all correspondence, share agreements etc., in relation to employment restrictions.” That was true, but at best ambiguous. On the same day Ms. Bennett replied that there appeared to be no restrictive covenants in his contract but “Could I just double check there are no additional side letters or correspondence that sets out any employment restrictions?” On 3rd July, 2019 Mr. Bellew replied that he had “... taken extensive legal advice in Ireland which says that there is no impediment to my joining or a non-compete other than a six months’ notice period.” At least with the benefit of hindsight, this reply was not really an answer to the question, but Ms. Bennett appears to have thought it was, for she replied on 4th July, 2019 “Thank you for your confirmation that you are not aware of any restrictive covenants that would apply to you.”
119. Mr. Bellew was asked a simple question by Ms. Bennett, which was whether there was any side letter or correspondence that set out any employment restrictions. There was. Mr. Bellew did not tell Ms. Bennett that there was but sought to evade the question by referring to legal advice that there was no impediment to joining or a non-compete other than a six months’ notice period. In my view, Mr. Bellew’s letter to Ms. Bennett of 3rd July, 2019 was not only misleading but was untrue. If there was an issue as to the validity or enforceability of the restraint, it was a matter on which easyJet was entitled to form its own view. I find that the statement that there was no non-compete, in reply to a question as to whether there was any side letter or other correspondence that set out any employment restriction, was false
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Uk
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
easyJet pilots overwhelmingly say they have no confidence in boss Release date: 17/07/2020
Over 2,000 easyJet pilots (99.9%) have voted overwhelmingly to express no confidence in the company’s Chief Operations Officer, Peter Bellew. This result clearly shows that there is a serious and widening rift between easyJet pilots and the airline’s senior management.
.
Over 2,000 easyJet pilots (99.9%) have voted overwhelmingly to express no confidence in the company’s Chief Operations Officer, Peter Bellew. This result clearly shows that there is a serious and widening rift between easyJet pilots and the airline’s senior management.
.
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Lud
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Because he knew of, and had agreed to, the restrictive covenants placed upon him and yet joined easyJet anyway, prior to this judgment. Either he misled easyJet about the covenants in place or easyJet didn't care. It's not true that such clauses are unenforceable and at that time it had not been ruled, as in this case, that the restrictions went too far, a decision made by the judge with "considerable reluctance".
You've only got to look at his plagiarised 'from the heart motivational speech' to sum up this guy's character. A total phoney.
You've only got to look at his plagiarised 'from the heart motivational speech' to sum up this guy's character. A total phoney.
In my view, Mr. Bellew’s letter to Ms. Bennett of 3rd July, 2019 was not only misleading but was untrue. If there was an issue as to the validity or enforceability of the restraint, it was a matter on which easyJet was entitled to form its own view. I find that the statement that there was no non-compete, in reply to a question as to whether there was any side letter or other correspondence that set out any employment restriction, was false.
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: North London at last
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The history of that case as I understand it was that Ryanair took action against Bellow and lost. I haven't read the full judgement, but the finding was, "The restrictions on employment in “any business in competition” with Ryanair and “in any capacity” are too wide". I'm not sure how that reflects badly on him?
It's well known those clauses are unenforceable. How specifically was easyJet materially mislead?
It's well known those clauses are unenforceable. How specifically was easyJet materially mislead?
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Lud
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
He's just a facsimile of WB who gave false evidence in another Ryanair court case. And in the middle we had Edward Scissorhands who turned up stuffed her pockets then b*****ed off. Being a charlatan is part of the job and the CEOs love it. Part of the good cop, bad cop routine. He'll only get replaced by another slime ball.
easyJet pilots overwhelmingly say they have no confidence in boss Release date: 17/07/2020
Over 2,000 easyJet pilots (99.9%) have voted overwhelmingly to express no confidence in the company’s Chief Operations Officer, Peter Bellew was previously Chief Operations Officer at Ryanair and only joined easyJet in January this year.
Peter Bellew also materially misled easyJet during his pre-employment interviews, according to the judgement by Judge Allen in Ryanair DAC vs Bellew from the end of last year.
Over 2,000 easyJet pilots (99.9%) have voted overwhelmingly to express no confidence in the company’s Chief Operations Officer, Peter Bellew was previously Chief Operations Officer at Ryanair and only joined easyJet in January this year.
Peter Bellew also materially misled easyJet during his pre-employment interviews, according to the judgement by Judge Allen in Ryanair DAC vs Bellew from the end of last year.
Did management want to begin a cost cutting campaign before Covid-19?
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Down South now...
Age: 43
Posts: 377
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
1 Post
That’s simply wrong. The matrix has already changed. And it’s still not finalised yet as there’s been no actual proof the redundancy numbers are required. But you’d know that if you read the union e-mails.
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Leave no one behind
Easy Jet may have AME's appointed as consultants and advisers to indicate which pilots should be dismissed on the grounds of redundancy. The whole fabric of a just and fair reporting culture leading to a safe operating environment is being undermined by AME's officers of the CAA using confidential medical information to select pilots on the basis of perceived regulatory medical risk. Is it now time for lists of AME's supporting companies in this way to be drawn up by BALPA and for individual pilots to be guided accordingly in selecting which AME to trust with their confidential medical history.
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You would never know that it was the medical record that led to your chop, while all the time in the background AME's with their hand in the pilots pockets with one hand are invoicing the airline and recommending a cull with the other.
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Borders
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You're aware presumably that any AME doing that would be struck off by the GMC? Further, quite aside from the obvious unfair dismissal claim when it came to light (and something so monumental WOULD come to light), the individual AME and the company would be facing any number of claims, which could include criminal charges.
Therefore, I assume that you're either seriously ill-informed or simply trolling.
Therefore, I assume that you're either seriously ill-informed or simply trolling.
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Lud
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The order was supposed to be trainers and management pilots first followed by everybody else in order of join date (with some flexibilities built in). Instead it appears to have been random and no answers have been forthcoming as to why.
Based on the last known proposals (quantity/matrix) it is entirely possible that some people who are now back flying could be made redundant.
Based on the last known proposals (quantity/matrix) it is entirely possible that some people who are now back flying could be made redundant.