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Old 1st Jul 2020, 15:16
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Garuda Indonesian 330 off the runway

Seems to be coming up on my feed: ALERT Garuda Indonesia Airbus A330 ran off runway during taxi at Sultan Hasanuddin International Airport
From Aerotime Hub: The Airbus A330 operated flight GA610 from Soekarno Hatta International Airport (CGK) in Jakarta, Indonesia. The Garuda Indonesia wide-body landed at the airport at 5:07 PM local time (UTC +8). Allegedly, the nose gear of the aircraft slipped when it was turning away from the runway and the A330 ended up on the grass.

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seems like it occurred while doing a 180!
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Look more like an excursion while taxying via 03 for a 31 departure, not on arrival.

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I'm not entirely sure that this is headline news!
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Look more like an excursion while taxying via 03 for a 31 departure, not on arrival.
Correction - right direction, but looks like an attempted 180 to line up for a 21 departure rather than continuing to taxy for 31:



Though, if Avherald's analysis is to believed, it was taxying in the opposite direction from the FR24 track, backtracking for an 03 departure and went off at the 03 threshold. I have no idea how they reached that conclusion.

Incident: Garuda A333 at Makassar on Jul 1st 2020, runway excursion during backtracking for departure

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Originally Posted by Pistonprop
I'm not entirely sure that this is headline news!
I would agree; the bold headline was simply a cut and paste

The aeroplane was however pretty well bogged down!
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Garuda A330 taxying

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seems like it occurred while doing a 180!
Nose wheel may go off runway when negotiating a 180 turn, but can be stopped before main wheels go off runway, if taying speed is controlled to 20 knots which is the limit for heavy aircraft.
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There is no 20 knot taxi limit for the A330, heavy or light.

In a straight line, ~ 30 knots is a recommended maximum, for a 90 degree turn, ~ 10 knots. The same numbers as most other big jets. None are limits per se.

For a 180 deg turn, ~ 8 knots keeps the turn going.
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Wasn't this one fairly new to them from AA or Delta?
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Originally Posted by Pistonprop
I'm not entirely sure that this is headline news!
Because it is a Indonesian airline and excursions happen more regularly or because it happened during taxi?

one wheel in the grass is a headline in most places. Precautionary landing due medical is on the news described as an emergency landing.
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Another view showing the A333's final position adjacent to the 21 piano keys (screen-grab from a news video):



Worth noting that:

a) unlike 13/31, neither end of 03/21 has a turning pad, although there is a taxiway at each end that provides a bit more diameter than just the runway width



b) the GA610/613 rotation is normally operated by a B738 rather than an A333

Meanwhile, Avherald's "analysis" stoutly maintains that it all happened at the 03 end instead.

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Seems way more than a simple misjudgement ,180 or anything else for that matter.
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Recovery in progress:



And yes, that really is a 40-year-old B732 (of the Indonesian AF) landing on 31 in the foreground as the A333 is towed off the 21 threshold.

The long arrow on the aerodrome chart points (entirely coincidentally) to the spot where the A333 ended up:







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