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Boeing 737 Max Recertification Testing - Finally.

Old 20th Dec 2020, 22:30
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I should clarify. Yes, you, other pilots, including Sully have professional knowledge, experience and judgement. But you don’t have certification data, have not personally tested a conformed aircraft or reviewed the test results. You have all you need to form informed opinions, one per pilot, and we have read several conflicting opinions, no surprise. But you don’t have the data needed to make a certification decision. We do have a Senate investigative report that gives reason to suspect the FAA certification.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 06:13
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European regulator says Boeing's 737 Max is safe

So says the BBC. Today
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 10:59
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We are all saved then. EASA is not that much better than some other regulators.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 15:56
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I have read that US Senate has recently issued a report on the B737 Max. I tried to download it but the access to the Senate site is unauthorized. Can anybody post the report?
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 16:33
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Here is a link to report

Link to the 101 page document
FFDA35FA-0442-465D-AC63-5634D9D3CEF6 (senate.gov)
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 18:15
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Thanks, but still I am not authorized to enter the site and download the report. Can you, please, put the report in this forum?
Tany thanks
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 18:51
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Is there a way to send .pdf attachments via message or email?
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 18:57
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Senate Report - Aviation Safety Oversight

gmrwiz First try at including an attachment.
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 19:20
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As a SLF brit with no credentials I can see and download the report using that url. Perhaps there is a problem at your end?
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 20:56
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If there's no fishy business going on between Boeing and the FAA why not invite Airbus test pilots to fly the MAX ?
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Old 21st Dec 2020, 22:24
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https://www.commerce.senate.gov/serv...3-5634D9D3CEF6

Public address for you as well hopefully. (Like #565)
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Old 22nd Dec 2020, 20:51
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Alaska Airlines Announces Restructured Agreement With Boeing To Acquire A Total Of 68 737-9 MAX Aircraft With Options For Another 52 New agreement in principle adds 23 orders plus 15 options to airline's overall order
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Alaska Airlines Dec 22, 2020, 08:55 ET Alaska Airlines Announces Restructured Agreement With Boeing To Acquire A Total Of 68 737-9 MAX Aircraft With Options For Another 52 (prnewswire.com)
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Old 22nd Dec 2020, 22:00
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A report I see:
The Boeing 737 Max will fly paying passengers in the US for the first time in 21 months next week as American Airlines is set to fly the first scheduled flight from Miami to New York on December 29.

Flyers can tell if they're on a Max by looking at markings on the plane, the size of the engines and other identifying features.

A passenger's reservation details will also say which aircraft they're booked on and US airlines will let passengers change their flights free of charge if they don't want to fly on a Max.
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Old 22nd Dec 2020, 22:11
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Originally Posted by osborne View Post
If there's no fishy business going on between Boeing and the FAA why not invite Airbus test pilots to fly the MAX ?
They wouldn'd know what to do with that big stick and wheel between their legs
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Old 22nd Dec 2020, 23:55
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Thanks, San Diego! Go see the AF447 tragedy and ask if you wanted one of those two in the front seats ( A/C was taking a break) to evalute a hydraulic/cable/pushrod/torque tube system with no "protections" or "gains" to smooth things out.

Not that one cannot fly a basic plane like a 1937 Cub, which I have, after 4 years in the FBW Viper. So it could be a mindset, but I'll take "good hands" any day.


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Old 25th Dec 2020, 10:29
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I see that it has not taken long before a max ends up with a Pan Pan, Air Canada provisioning flight from Pinal Airpark Marana,AZ to Montreal,QC, diverted to Tucson,AZ with one engine shut down.
Before anyone gets on their high horse, l know these things happen to every type of aircraft flying, but its not going help with public confidence in this aircraft.
Every tiny mishap or issue is going to make its way into the press however minor or stupid.
Remember most or a majority of press reporters have no clue about what they are reporting on.
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Old 25th Dec 2020, 17:21
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Link to the report:
Air Canada Boeing 737-8 MAX suffers left-hand engine failure on return to service flight – Canadian Aviation News (wordpress.com)
I wonder what the check list contained for the OK to return the stored aircraft to service. All checked OK with this being an unexpected anomaly or ?

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Old 26th Dec 2020, 07:23
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Max engine shutdown

Surprised this isn't already on here https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...chanical-issue
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Old 26th Dec 2020, 07:29
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There is a passing reference to it (which, frankly, is more than it warranted) in the main Max Recertification thread.

An IFSD is rarely newsworthy, and this one wasn't either.
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Old 26th Dec 2020, 07:36
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Unfortunately a blocked toilet on a Max will be considered newsworthy for quite some time to come.
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