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EASA COVID-19 Aviation Health Safety Protocol

Old 22nd May 2020, 12:22
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If you divide an aircraft cabin into Sanitary Class in the front and COVID-19 Class in the back, that will likely boost bookings an awful lot. Just like the deliberate negative publicity which MOL has sought multiple times. As weird as it is, but people's curiosity to try whether something is as bad as it is alleged to be often outweighs many other considerations.
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Old 22nd May 2020, 15:23
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Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat View Post
Well, for start the airport should ensure that Bars, Pubs and sales of duty free alcohol are stopped until the crisis is over. I almost certain that won't happen though.
Bars will be shut and Duty Free shops will be closed, under the proposal.
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Old 22nd May 2020, 15:30
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Originally Posted by jimmievegas View Post
Look at his location. He's either a parody of a brexiteer or an actual brexiteer. Neither are likely to have anything relevant to bring to the discussion. Leave the scientific discussion of viral transmission to experts, not to a bunch of aviation people.
On that note, I found it interesting to see that IATA has decided there's no need to keep middle seats empty, despite scientific evidence to the contrary.
Its a case of, don't bother trying to prevent infection on the aircraft because its impossible and would make flying economically un-viable.

Instead a 14 day quarantine will catch those infected while flying.

but the quarantine rules are likely to tip the balance against it, especially for those unable to work from home (you would need to use an additional 14 days leave).
Thats about 50% of the population who can WFH. These are also generally the best paid and least likely to be losing their job in the near future.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 10:31
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Originally Posted by jimmievegas View Post
Look at his location. He's either a parody of a brexiteer or an actual brexiteer. Neither are likely to have anything relevant to bring to the discussion. Leave the scientific discussion of viral transmission to experts, not to a bunch of aviation people.
On that note, I found it interesting to see that IATA has decided there's no need to keep middle seats empty, despite scientific evidence to the contrary.
Literally couldn't be more wrong. I think Brexit is the second dumbest thing the British people have done in decades, the first being the current media driven destruction of the economy while seemingly making it up as they go along. Like I said, this is a serious issue, and people at risk should stay home, but the way forward is to put procedures in place, make the best of it and get on with our lives. Unfortunately as most of us have come to realise, the last people who you would ever want in charge of ANYTHING in a crisis, tend to become politicians.
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Old 24th May 2020, 01:09
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking View Post
I made a long haul flight two days ago. I am now in a country that requires me to self quarantine for 14 days.

If only there was a way to keep the empty, stress free airports and empty flights with rows of spare seats without the damage to businesses and livelihoods that has already happened and of course will happen. It made travel much less stressful.

On a more serious note, everyone in the industry has my utmost sympathy and I hope you can get through this with your sanity and finances intact.

Sadly I think we all know it is going to be some time before air travel gets back to Ďnormalí.

BV
Cheers Bob. When you are in the industry.. you will know the shit that we are facing. The ones that live with ATPLs, AMLs and are CAs. The airframes that fly with more than two people. Nothing personal mate.
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Old 24th May 2020, 02:04
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Originally Posted by peter we View Post
Bars will be shut and Duty Free shops will be closed, under the proposal.
I think most airport owners would argue that such measures would make it commercially impossible to operate their airport.
Retail space rental is, I think after car park fees, where they make their money.
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Old 24th May 2020, 07:41
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CT

Itís guys such as yourself who have been at the forefront of my mind since this rubbish started. I canít imagine how stressful it must be.

I truly hope it all works out in the long run.

BV
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Old 24th May 2020, 09:49
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PilotLZ's Post #11 is probably the most sensible one here: We need people back flying and any way of starting that, even though it may be very restrictive at first, has to be good. Yes, there are some who are eager to get back to travel but there are a lot of people who are still very fearful. Something, anything, that gets people back flying again to show others that it is safe has to be a good thing.

I have been circulating detailed information taken from TravelHealthPro, IATA and WHO that shows that "
research has shown there is very little risk of any communicable disease being transmitted on board an aircraft" to everyone that I know that has shown any 'health' concerns about travelling by air. We all need to do everything that we can to ensure that people don't follow media garbage (or worse still 'social' media utter garbage) that is detrimental to them wanting to fly. It's like that irrational fear of flying when you point out to them that the journey to and from the airport is more risky than flying, well we need to be pointing out the same with this nasty 'thing'.

We need people back flying again and if a first few cautious steps help to allay fears of the regulators and then the travelling public, that is what is needed.

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Old 24th May 2020, 15:00
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Originally Posted by NoelEvans View Post
I have been circulating detailed information taken from TravelHealthPro, IATA and WHO that shows that "research has shown there is very little risk of any communicable disease being transmitted on board an aircraft" to everyone that I know that has shown any 'health' concerns about travelling by air. We all need to do everything that we can to ensure that people don't follow media garbage (or worse still 'social' media utter garbage) that is detrimental to them wanting to fly. It's like that irrational fear of flying when you point out to them that the journey to and from the airport is more risky than flying, well we need to be pointing out the same with this nasty 'thing'.
Hmm, you may well be correct about the risk aboard the aircraft but the risk in getting to the airport, if using public transport, waiting to board said aircraft in the airport and leaving the destination airport, if using public transport, may well be somewhat larger.
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Old 24th May 2020, 16:00
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Sam, You are correct that getting to and from the airport will be a greater risk than flying, but then that has always been the case even in normal times. Don't worry about space in the airport. Have you been to an airport to catch a flight recently? I can assure you that there is no problem with space! And even as flights start to increase there is still a huge amount of space to use until airports become 'crowded'.
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Old 26th May 2020, 09:53
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Originally Posted by kiwi grey View Post
I think most airport owners would argue that such measures would make it commercially impossible to operate their airport.
Retail space rental is, I think after car park fees, where they make their money.
They will have to find alternative sources of income, need to get people back flying.
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