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OK talking about 14-day quarantines did you know that NY/NJ residents are supposed to fill out a form and self quarantine upon arrival in Florida? Unfortunately my Father-in-Law passed last week and Thursday I fly down for a very private small soc-distanced commemoration. Funeral to be when it can be later. After spending a few days short of 2 months in my NYC apartment and strictly obeying Government guidance, I really do have very mixed thoughts about this trip. It really angers me the number of Americans not following the direction of their Governor/Mayor and now I am going to be that person. But in all honesty I am more worried about getting sick by Floridians than vv. NB because Florida does not actively enforce quarantine of NY/NJ folks - buying two 1-way tickets will evade entry to the Sunshine State. Head scratching.
As for the exemption of French citizens into the UK and vv?, if and when there is a 14 day quarantine instituted wouldn't France be more worried about UK citizens visiting than the other way around? UK still peaking France less so, for the moment at least. I have lived in both your beautiful countries and work for Air France so of course I am excited to hear of of borders opening. Or at least being contemplated. I wish everyone health, safe travel and best wishes for all families in this uncertain moment.
As for the exemption of French citizens into the UK and vv?, if and when there is a 14 day quarantine instituted wouldn't France be more worried about UK citizens visiting than the other way around? UK still peaking France less so, for the moment at least. I have lived in both your beautiful countries and work for Air France so of course I am excited to hear of of borders opening. Or at least being contemplated. I wish everyone health, safe travel and best wishes for all families in this uncertain moment.
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Many states in Australia have had mandatory 14-day quarantine in hotels for all overseas arrivals (air and sea) at the state's cost since mid-March. There is very little that can be done about it. There are also many interstate travel restrictions and quarantine requirements for those hoping to move around within the country.
Fairly archaic treatment of people, and at times there have been humans rights' implications (most notable the inadequate assessment of 'detainees' mental health issues, including a suicide while in quarantine).
On a positive note, the majority of Australia's COVID cases had origins from overseas travelers and this mandatory quarantine has assisted in controlling numbers.
Fairly archaic treatment of people, and at times there have been humans rights' implications (most notable the inadequate assessment of 'detainees' mental health issues, including a suicide while in quarantine).
On a positive note, the majority of Australia's COVID cases had origins from overseas travelers and this mandatory quarantine has assisted in controlling numbers.
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Is Summer cancelled?
People are unlikely to be able to go on foreign summer holidays this year, Health Secretary Matt Hancock says.
Asked whether "summer was cancelled", he tells ITV's This Morning: "I think that's likely to be the case.
"We haven't made a final decision on that yet but it is clear that we will seek to reopen hospitality, some hospitality, from early July if we keep successfully reducing the spread of this virus.
"But social distancing of some kind is going to continue.
"The conclusion from that is it is unlikely that big, lavish international holidays are going to possible for this summer.
"I just think that's a reality of life."
People are unlikely to be able to go on foreign summer holidays this year, Health Secretary Matt Hancock says.
Asked whether "summer was cancelled", he tells ITV's This Morning: "I think that's likely to be the case.
"We haven't made a final decision on that yet but it is clear that we will seek to reopen hospitality, some hospitality, from early July if we keep successfully reducing the spread of this virus.
"But social distancing of some kind is going to continue.
"The conclusion from that is it is unlikely that big, lavish international holidays are going to possible for this summer.
"I just think that's a reality of life."
Inevitably governments will look at countries that appear to be doing better and identify what they are doing differently. Face masks on public transport and in shops, contact tracing and some form of control of people coming into your country are some of the obvious candidates. Some may be more useful and practical than others. Making these things voluntary is an option, but does not seem at the moment certain to have the best outcome. I am optimistic that more people have had the infection and will be shown to have some form of immunity. But until we know for sure doing nothing is unlikely to be the best plan.
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We already have it here in Dominica, the provisions here going back more than two months were draconian compared to the UK. We are projected to be a virus free country this month, only 16 cases, no deaths, all recovered save for 2 mild cases.
As it happens I am in the government quarantine here, get out on Friday, after I flew my plane to Barbados, refuelled and flew back - just wanted to do an engine health precautionay flight (30 minutes solo out over the sea) after it not having been flow for overva month, but they said no - an international flight no problem - then 14 days in a hotel suite (no visitors and tourists so they are empty). The change of location was welcome after over six weeks at home only briefly leaving three times.
No question though it will kill airtravel and tourism - IF there was a flight to the UK a one week stay in the UK would take five weeks - so hell, not doing that!
As it happens I am in the government quarantine here, get out on Friday, after I flew my plane to Barbados, refuelled and flew back - just wanted to do an engine health precautionay flight (30 minutes solo out over the sea) after it not having been flow for overva month, but they said no - an international flight no problem - then 14 days in a hotel suite (no visitors and tourists so they are empty). The change of location was welcome after over six weeks at home only briefly leaving three times.
No question though it will kill airtravel and tourism - IF there was a flight to the UK a one week stay in the UK would take five weeks - so hell, not doing that!
It's official, my state is covid free. Is this the first place on earth?
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Golder : Well done Oz. Although, you were in the summer (any viruses don't like heat ) you are now headed into winter. They often call this the "flu season". WHO will call it the "Second wave" . Well, they would, wouldn't they ? Here in sunny Cyprus it is 42c today. Local rag headline was " Infection cases zero " . Honestly, you can't make this up . In my Village, we are mostly retired and many have "underlying" health issues. No-one got the virus & we are all still stumbling about, emerging out of lock-down when permitted. I am definitely with the alternative views on this and no longer call them the "Loony left" . Cripes, will probably go missing now !
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In sunny Thailand, local rag heading is "Double Zeroes" meaning no infections or deaths countrywide yet still under national curfew and certain lockdown conditions.
At least we are now permitted to buy alcohol at stores but any form of entertainment is a long way off. Why?
At least we are now permitted to buy alcohol at stores but any form of entertainment is a long way off. Why?
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Although, you were in the summer (any viruses don't like heat ) you are now headed into winter.
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OK talking about 14-day quarantines did you know that NY/NJ residents are supposed to fill out a form and self quarantine upon arrival in Florida?
OK talking about 14-day quarantines did you know that NY/NJ residents are supposed to fill out a form and self quarantine upon arrival in Florida?
If I didn't have a Canadian Passport, I wouldn't be allowed into Canada at all.
Incidentally I have been self-quarantined, here in Vermont for over a month.
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If I want to travel to our summer cottage, in Canada, from the USA, I have to self quarantine for 2 weeks. I have to proceed directly to the cottage, on an island. No stopping for any supplies, food , once I enter Canada. No leaving the property, even to buy groceries for 2 weeks. So friends will have to provide me with food, or anything else I need.
If I didn't have a Canadian Passport, I wouldn't be allowed into Canada at all.
Incidentally I have been self-quarantined, here in Vermont for over a month.
If I didn't have a Canadian Passport, I wouldn't be allowed into Canada at all.
Incidentally I have been self-quarantined, here in Vermont for over a month.
WhiteKnight : Mmmmmm, see your point but Africa, vast, hot, not showing the rates expected even though Social Distancing in Soweto must be the larf of the day. Interesting view here is possibly the hackneyed phrase "Underlying health issues". Middle East is also vast & hot but. oh dear, lots of enderlying issues I venture to suggest. I only did 17 years in Bahrain & I suggest that very poor diet choices and widespread obesity combined with the consequential Type 2 Diabetes would have had an impact on the "many cases" you suggest.
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WhiteKnight : Mmmmmm, see your point but Africa, vast, hot, not showing the rates expected even though Social Distancing in Soweto must be the larf of the day. Interesting view here is possibly the hackneyed phrase "Underlying health issues". Middle East is also vast & hot but. oh dear, lots of enderlying issues I venture to suggest. I only did 17 years in Bahrain & I suggest that very poor diet choices and widespread obesity combined with the consequential Type 2 Diabetes would have had an impact on the "many cases" you suggest.
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Thanks rcsa. You give four qualifiers for the cross hairs.. I scored 4 out of 4. That's me f ' d !
I also did time in the desert. It gets "bloody" cold there too , White Knight , especially in the "flu season". I suspect that is the time the Middle East saw most cases. After Feb, it quickly hots up and, hello , cases start to dwindle. That's if you believe all the hype .
Going on a diet. Might even reverse the type 2. Still leaves me scoring 2 out of 4, Even stevens for the next flu season. Oooops, sorry, I mean "second wave " in sunny Ealing.
I also did time in the desert. It gets "bloody" cold there too , White Knight , especially in the "flu season". I suspect that is the time the Middle East saw most cases. After Feb, it quickly hots up and, hello , cases start to dwindle. That's if you believe all the hype .
Going on a diet. Might even reverse the type 2. Still leaves me scoring 2 out of 4, Even stevens for the next flu season. Oooops, sorry, I mean "second wave " in sunny Ealing.
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For what it's worth.
I am hypertensive and type 2 - have skirted the medical requirements for years.
After six weeks of isolation (oddly little or no recreational eating) and two weeks in quarantine (they asked about conditions, so fed me their diabetic diet) - I have lost a chunk of weight. Tested myself BP and sugar - get this BP 100/72 (after I stopped taking my beta blocker and diretic) and blood sugar of 5.2, a 4.6 and then 6.7 after eating - prior to this was struggling to keep it close to 8 (I take no diabetic drugs). So I seem to have benefitted from this whole virus thing - silver linings.
On a related note yesterday the country was declared virus free and after no deaths in this first wave - lockdown rules, curfew and closed borders continue in prep for the second wave.
I am hypertensive and type 2 - have skirted the medical requirements for years.
After six weeks of isolation (oddly little or no recreational eating) and two weeks in quarantine (they asked about conditions, so fed me their diabetic diet) - I have lost a chunk of weight. Tested myself BP and sugar - get this BP 100/72 (after I stopped taking my beta blocker and diretic) and blood sugar of 5.2, a 4.6 and then 6.7 after eating - prior to this was struggling to keep it close to 8 (I take no diabetic drugs). So I seem to have benefitted from this whole virus thing - silver linings.
On a related note yesterday the country was declared virus free and after no deaths in this first wave - lockdown rules, curfew and closed borders continue in prep for the second wave.
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Thanks rcsa. You give four qualifiers for the cross hairs.. I scored 4 out of 4. That's me f ' d !
I also did time in the desert. It gets "bloody" cold there too , White Knight , especially in the "flu season". I suspect that is the time the Middle East saw most cases. After Feb, it quickly hots up and, hello , cases start to dwindle. That's if you believe all the hype .
Going on a diet. Might even reverse the type 2. Still leaves me scoring 2 out of 4, Even stevens for the next flu season. Oooops, sorry, I mean "second wave " in sunny Ealing.
I also did time in the desert. It gets "bloody" cold there too , White Knight , especially in the "flu season". I suspect that is the time the Middle East saw most cases. After Feb, it quickly hots up and, hello , cases start to dwindle. That's if you believe all the hype .
Going on a diet. Might even reverse the type 2. Still leaves me scoring 2 out of 4, Even stevens for the next flu season. Oooops, sorry, I mean "second wave " in sunny Ealing.
