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Old 12th Mar 2020, 15:32
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Question Urgent-Time to stop Iran Air flying to UK

How is it that Iran Air have re-started operating into the UK? Surely this is a very bad idea, particularly as their passengers merge with a fairly busy crowd of people in T3, and planeloads of unchecked passengers from the Tehran flight enter the UK without any form of check or restriction. Just Foreign Office advice for returning travellers.

This appears very wrong to me.

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Is that a recent development?
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IranAir has abruptly canceled its European flight suspension only three days after it began. The airline had been directed to do so by the Iranian Civil Aviation Organisation and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but thanks to efforts by the airline CEO, it has now reopened the routes. Services will return to normal by the end of today. Courtesy SimpleFlying.com
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Iran Air were permitted to re-start flights to Europe on the 11th March, (yesterday) only using A320 aircraft. Other a/c types, notably the A330 and the historic A300/A310's within the airline remain banned by EASA due to non-current databases I understand. The issue is, however, virus transmission.

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The A330 is no longer banned. They apparently fixed the software problem and IR711 is currently en route to LHR (EP-IJA)
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Originally Posted by RoyHudd
How is it that Iran Air have re-started operating into the UK? Surely this is a very bad idea, particularly as their passengers merge with a fairly busy crowd of people in T3, and planeloads of unchecked passengers from the Tehran flight enter the UK without any form of check or restriction. Just Foreign Office advice for returning travellers.

This appears very wrong to me.
But our esteemed Prime Minister says that we have control of our own borders now, whether we choose to man those borders is another matter altogether.
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But our esteemed Prime Minister says that we have control of our own borders now, whether we choose to man those borders is another matter altogether.
The 330 is marginally better than the 320, which was making a fuel stop in Rimini en-route to and from LHR. Talk about exposure.
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It's time to think about Iran, but you have to be open minded.
I'm an EU Citizen, working for more than 30 years for an EU carrier, had the pleasure to work with some Iranians, great folks.
Now retired, my next 2-3 month trip will be to Iran.
I just want to see, what's going on there.
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It's time to think about Iran, but you have to be open minded.
I'm an EU Citizen, working for more than 30 years for an EU carrier, had the pleasure to work with some Iranians, great folks.
Now retired, my next 2-3 month trip will be to Iran.
I just want to see, what's going on there.
Thank you for this.

I have been married to a wonderful Iranian gal for 25 years and I am quite familiar with the culture.

Persians are legendary for their kind, generous hospitality and thousands of years of fascinating history.

You will very much enjoy your trip.
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Originally Posted by Old Dogs
Thank you for this.

I have been married to a wonderful Iranian gal for 25 years and I am quite familiar with the culture.

Persians are legendary for their kind, generous hospitality and thousands of years of fascinating history.

You will very much enjoy your trip.
Thx OD.

I had some layovers at Teheran, did some sightseeing up north, but can't wait to have a more detailed look.
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My experience as well with Persians here in the US. They invented hospitality and are masters at it.
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Granted, Iranians can be very hospitable people. I know that too, from experience. From visiting the country and from meeting expatriates.

But what has that to do with unnecessary and risky transmission of the Covid-19 virus? The spread of the contagion is alarmingly high, principally from Qom. The stupid "religious" authorities have seen fit to encourage mass pilgrimages in the face of hard facts concerning the spread of this virus in their country.

Uncontained travel from Iran to the UK is utterly wrong at this moment. Nothing to do with how nice the people are.
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Why then is Alitalia still flying daily into London from Rome? Italy has twice as many cases of Covid-19 as Iran.
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Why then is Alitalia still flying daily into London from Rome? Italy has twice as many cases of Covid-19 as Iran.
Italy has *reported* twice as many cases as Iran...
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An Iran Air scheduled flight landed in Frankfurt yesterday - no checks or medical controls at FRA..
Another flight is scheduled for tomorrow.
Royally pissed off by this irresponsible neglicence. Criminal IMO.

https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/...e-f4a9e59dd7ac
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Iran's reporting of numbers is about as dependable as their word on nuclear weaponry. Stop them from flying internationally. And Alitalia too.
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Should have stopped flights from China, Italy and Iran a long time ago. It was how this country got first infected. We took no action, as did most nations, but now it is too late many borders are being closed around the world.
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WHY IS IRAN AIR STILL FLYING INTO LHR??

IR711 arrived today (24 March) and used T3.

I first pointed out the gross risk employees and pax are exposed to from this service in an earlier posting 12 days ago. Having been in T3 and passing close to the departure gate for an Iran Air Flight on 12 March, I am now astonished that these flights are permitted to continue. The Covid-19 virus has taken hold in Tehran, with many deaths reported. Knowing the Iranian government's penchant for covering up unsavoury truths, the probability exists that these flights are exposing pax and employees at LHR to high risk levels.

Without wokeish comments on the wonderful nature of the Iranian people, can someone please explain why this risk-laden situation is permitted?

In my view, the levels of safety in the UK's lockdown are minimal. Having just returned from Canada, I have witnessed proper safety measures being taken everywhere without any lockdown being announced. (Including the airport YVR, much safer than LHR or MAN).
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This is unbelievable ! I can't even go out to buy a paper and yet we are still allowing inbound flights from one of the most unreliable countries in the world.

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Old 24th Mar 2020, 16:32
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I was going to post on the same subject, about UK airports in general. Is there any real check to prevent a passenger passing through Immigration, catching the tube or bus into London and moving about? As Sleeve Wing says; unbelievable. The walk for a paper this morning combined the one allowed "essentials" journey and the one allowed "exercise".
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