There Goes Transatlantic Air Travel.
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Who knows, they can still fly freely to the US, unlike the airlines from Schengen states. And since nobody tracks someone entering the UK with their ID card, something that is common and still possible from Europe, it allows an easy way to circumvent the US travel ban for europeans from the Schengen Area. Most probably do not realise that yet, but certainly a possibility.
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It is for the same reason Italy went in lockdown when the virus was already wreaking havoc: To spread the number of sick people over a longer time.
That way you will have a less intense ‘peak’ that puts a burden on the medical infrastructure.
It is not so stupid as you might think, it is the way to go according to experts. You will not stop the virus, most people will get sick, but spreading it over a longer time helps in relieving the pressure on your hospitals and clinics somewhat.
That way you will have a less intense ‘peak’ that puts a burden on the medical infrastructure.
It is not so stupid as you might think, it is the way to go according to experts. You will not stop the virus, most people will get sick, but spreading it over a longer time helps in relieving the pressure on your hospitals and clinics somewhat.
Trump being Trump he use sthe opportunity to attack those he feels offended by at the same time.
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Presidential edict - 'close the stable door, but leave the window open for fresh air'.
'Nothing to fear but fear alone'; some administrations may manipulate fear, but to what purpose.
Better to provide a positive view; not a list of 'cases' and 'deaths' (fatality rate), state the number of recoveries. This value is 'cases' - 'deaths', a much higher value, but of little political or media value.
'Nothing to fear but fear alone'; some administrations may manipulate fear, but to what purpose.
Better to provide a positive view; not a list of 'cases' and 'deaths' (fatality rate), state the number of recoveries. This value is 'cases' - 'deaths', a much higher value, but of little political or media value.
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Section 1. Suspension and Limitation on Entry.
The entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of all aliens who were physically present within the Schengen Area during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States is hereby suspended and limited subject to section 2 of this proclamation.
Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry.
(a) Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to:
(vii) any alien traveling as a nonimmigrant pursuant to a C-1, D, or C-1/D nonimmigrant visa as a crewmember or any alien otherwise traveling to the United States as air or sea crew;
The entry into the United States, as immigrants or nonimmigrants, of all aliens who were physically present within the Schengen Area during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States is hereby suspended and limited subject to section 2 of this proclamation.
Sec. 2. Scope of Suspension and Limitation on Entry.
(a) Section 1 of this proclamation shall not apply to:
(vii) any alien traveling as a nonimmigrant pursuant to a C-1, D, or C-1/D nonimmigrant visa as a crewmember or any alien otherwise traveling to the United States as air or sea crew;
Re C-1/D Visa: do you just have to hold such a visa to be allowed in or do you actually have to operate a flight into the US to make use of the C-1/D. I got a B-1/B-2 alongside my C-1/D and just to cancel my flights as passenger through the US.
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The exemption apparently is only for C1/D, don’t think you are going to get in unnoticed😉
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It's a mostly open border and as has been proven in the past 2 years (people fleeing the US) it is easy to sneak across.
but here is an article:
but here is an article:
Trump's Europe travel ban poses questions for Canada-U.S. border
James McCartenThe Canadian PressPublished Thursday, March 12, 2020 4:39AM EDT https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...rder-1.4849675Join Date: Nov 2000
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Flying to Canada and then onto the States will not be a practial option for most people. It is not really that easy to sneak into the US over the Canadian border for the average person. If you show up at a border crossing with an passport from any of the countries involved you will almost certainly be questioned and likely refused entry.
https://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...S-14095175.php
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Except that we can enter the UK with our ID cards which physically look just like driver's licences or credit cards. Hard to stamp.
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To restrict international travel is not necessarily the wrong thing to do. Whether this is right measure at the right time is a question for the experts. To blame the virus on the EU, and then omit the UK from the travel restrictions when we are probably no more than 3 or 4 days behind France, Germany, Spain in terms of this outbreak is illogical and sounds very Trump. There must always be a scapegoat and today its the EU. I fear for the US in this pandemic, without a consistent, top-down, expert & evidence-led set of public health decisions, the US will have the greatest death rate in the developed world.
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-n...n-virus-deaths
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Here is an update my daughter has just been sent in PRG. I was going to try to get her to swap out the LHR-JFK leg to LHR-PIT, but that won't be possible as they have to fly into certain airports. (I'm retyping this from a screenshot she sent me from her iPhone, bolding is mine.)
Following the announcement from President Trump concerning the 30-day suspension of travel from Europe to the U.S., the Department of Homeland Security released a clarifying statement regarding the exceptions to the ban indicating, "This does not apply to legal permanent residents, (generally) immediate family members of U.S. citizens, and other individuals who are identified in the proclamation." While the ban does exempt American citizens and permanent residents, the acting Secretary added, "In the next 48 hours, in the interest of public health, I intend to issue a supplemental Notice of Arrivals Restriction requiring U.S. passengers that have been in the Schengen Area to travel through select airports where the U.S. Government has implemented enhanced screening procedures."
Following the announcement from President Trump concerning the 30-day suspension of travel from Europe to the U.S., the Department of Homeland Security released a clarifying statement regarding the exceptions to the ban indicating, "This does not apply to legal permanent residents, (generally) immediate family members of U.S. citizens, and other individuals who are identified in the proclamation." While the ban does exempt American citizens and permanent residents, the acting Secretary added, "In the next 48 hours, in the interest of public health, I intend to issue a supplemental Notice of Arrivals Restriction requiring U.S. passengers that have been in the Schengen Area to travel through select airports where the U.S. Government has implemented enhanced screening procedures."
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It is for the same reason Italy went in lockdown when the virus was already wreaking havoc: To spread the number of sick people over a longer time.
That way you will have a less intense ‘peak’ that puts a burden on the medical infrastructure.
It is not so stupid as you might think, it is the way to go according to experts. You will not stop the virus, most people will get sick, but spreading it over a longer time helps in relieving the pressure on your hospitals and clinics somewhat.
That way you will have a less intense ‘peak’ that puts a burden on the medical infrastructure.
It is not so stupid as you might think, it is the way to go according to experts. You will not stop the virus, most people will get sick, but spreading it over a longer time helps in relieving the pressure on your hospitals and clinics somewhat.
The idea is that reducing the peak load on the health services they will not break down.