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Old 12th Feb 2020, 11:51
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Didn't Boeing propose something along similar lines some years back?

And I thought the A380 was phugly...
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Well, from my passenger point of view, it seem to have either no window seats at all, or a very reduced proportion of window seats.
I wouldnt mine no window, if there was a forward looking cockpit window cam hooked up to the inseat screen that was active the whole flight including ground movements and take off/landing.
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
Didn't Boeing propose something along similar lines some years back?

And I thought the A380 was phugly...
Yes... the X-48B

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/...48B/index.html
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 12:47
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Cranfield built the X-48, who built MAVERIC ? Similar sized models.

Differences in external design form; why … ? for consideration and discussion.
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This is a serious question, from someone who knows they don't know: how much information is gained from building an RC model of such small size, over what can be gained from wind tunnel tests and computation?
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 21:05
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Maybe it's just me, but it reminds me of Thunderbird 2. :-)


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Old 12th Feb 2020, 21:08
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Originally Posted by Tech Guy
I wouldnt mine no window, if there was a forward looking cockpit window cam hooked up to the inseat screen that was active the whole flight including ground movements and take off/landing.
Consider the possibility of making the skin of the aircraft invisible to passengers, using either internal screens, or glasses hooked up to a multitude of external cameras. The glasses might be a better idea, considering that some passengers will prefer a nice, dark and non-threatening environment.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 21:20
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Never mind the lack of windows, I cannot see where the underbelly cargo and pax bags are going to be loaded and unloaded. There also seems to be limited opportunity to have more than one door for passenger embarkation and disembarkation.
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Old 12th Feb 2020, 21:35
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Never mind the lack of windows, I cannot see where the underbelly cargo and pax bags are going to be loaded and unloaded. There also seems to be limited opportunity to have more than one door for passenger embarkation and disembarkation.
No problem!


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Old 12th Feb 2020, 23:22
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Like your thinking Capn P.
If you could have separate pre-fuellable/loadable pods for consumables and payload it could make turnarounds quick. And an inflight jettison switch for the pax pod (with a parachute of course, we're not monsters) - behave or else.......bwahahahahaaaa.
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Wow!!! That baby could go 6,200 mph and was powered by a fusion reactor!
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Old 13th Feb 2020, 06:37
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If aviation is going to pull its weight in terms of reducing carbon emissions (or keeping them the same with growth in traffic) then these are types of aircraft designs that will be required. And its not just the aircraft shape/form, it also allows new engine architectures such as open-rotor designs to be used. Only by combining all these aspects together will you get step changes in efficiency.
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 01:55
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What you airline chaps need is a system pioneered in the helicopter world, in line with Cpt. P's suggestion. detatchable, so it could double as the lounge at the gate and rolled out already loaded to the aircraft, economy introduced as well by getting rid of the bus transit from lounge to aircraft at those airports that use that system.



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Old 14th Feb 2020, 11:41
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Already proposed some years ago....

Can't post links so look up v=ZPkr3A9DTOc in youtube.

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Old 14th Feb 2020, 11:54
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Looking on this picture I wonder why Airbus have decided to make an observation deck looking like a cockpit from outside? First class or observation deck will be totally fine with LCD screens imitating the front view, no need for extra structural items and expensive front windows...
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Old 14th Feb 2020, 20:24
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Originally Posted by FlightlessParrot
This is a serious question, from someone who knows they don't know: how much information is gained from building an RC model of such small size, over what can be gained from wind tunnel tests and computation?
I understood it was a "control demonstrator", that means that the goal is to demonstrate that this shape of plane can be controlled in flight, can take-of and land safely and such. Wind tunnel tests are too static for that and a full dynamic simulation requires huge amounts of cpu-time.
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Old 21st Feb 2020, 15:21
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Airbus PR

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Indeed, NASA were doing this over ten years ago! I was very amused at how much publicity this has received everywhere. Airbus' PR division sure knows how to create viral fluff (another example being their electric demonstrator aircraft, receiving much fanfare when other manufacturers such as Pipistrel were already producing useful electrics). As for the blended wing design, it has many flaws as a passenger transport concept, as mentioned by others. To me, a more interesting concept from the same NASA/Boeing research stable is the D8, Mark Drela's twin-aisle double-bubble design, but it also suffers from too shallow a cargo hold. High tail-mounted engines are not new, if you recall the DC-10/MD-11, but the airflow problems may not yet have been resolved. Unfortunately, we seem to be stuck with the general layout pioneered by the Dash-80/KC-135/B707, which is aesthetically boring but no doubt economical for the airlines.
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Old 21st Feb 2020, 15:36
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Wasn’t this very layout pioneered by the Me 262 already?
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Old 21st Feb 2020, 16:12
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Wasn’t this very layout pioneered by the Me 262 already?
Yes, but in the Me 262, every seat was a window seat.
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Old 21st Feb 2020, 21:55
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He means the -262 was the first of what became the conventional layout that we fly today. The -163 was most like the Maveric, and yes, every seat was a window seat.
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