A350 engine shutdown incidents linked to cockpit drink spills
They make keyboard covers, so why not centre console covers, a bit thicker than shrink wrap but having some shape. Knobs turnable and levers leverable, and rip off in a moment should it become necessary.
I restore watches that have backs, bezels, pushers and crowns all tested to 100M, why can aircraft kit that costs bazillions be so leaky?
I restore watches that have backs, bezels, pushers and crowns all tested to 100M, why can aircraft kit that costs bazillions be so leaky?
The film is worth a bit of a watch for the airplane they used as a backdrop. Quite the Frankenstein assembly.
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I've been getting pilot bulletins about avoiding liquid spills for at least two decades now. We are all trained not to pass drinks over the center console but inevitably somebody parks his Starbucks on comm panel while building his nest and knocks it over. And over the years the cup holders are often too small or too large for the latest fashion in beverage containers e.g. the vacuum sports mugs.
Actually it's a pretty good B-movie in my opinion, definitely worth a watch. Ernie Gann disowned the film since it had little to do with his iconic book of the same title. However, he later lamented that this move to preserve artistic integrity cost him a lot of money in residual royalties as the film played on television for decades in syndication.
In the movie the smoking gun is found at the crash site, a paper coffee cup in the wreckage of the cockpit.
The full movie is here:
In the movie the smoking gun is found at the crash site, a paper coffee cup in the wreckage of the cockpit.
The full movie is here:
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you can’t just go for a stroll and a drink.
im not wasting anymore time on this
Yep it comes full circle.
when I a young un in nappies we progress from boob to bottle to a teacher beaker with lid on.
grew up a little, lid and nappies come off.
grow a little more and want boob.
become a responsible adult with a professional job, lid goes back on drinks.
looking forward to the nappies.......
when I a young un in nappies we progress from boob to bottle to a teacher beaker with lid on.
grew up a little, lid and nappies come off.
grow a little more and want boob.
become a responsible adult with a professional job, lid goes back on drinks.
looking forward to the nappies.......
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Spilling Liquids on the Aisle Stand
I don't know why the recent thread on this was locked, although it did take a bit of a diversion ...
It was locked before I had a chance to post that I suspect the reason for the rumored discussions between operators and Airbus was an event earlier in the week of a Delta A350 diverting into Fairbanks following an unrestartable uncommanded engine shutdown on an Airbus A350 after liquid was spilled on the aisle stand.
It was locked before I had a chance to post that I suspect the reason for the rumored discussions between operators and Airbus was an event earlier in the week of a Delta A350 diverting into Fairbanks following an unrestartable uncommanded engine shutdown on an Airbus A350 after liquid was spilled on the aisle stand.
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I post rarely enough here that I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or if I busted a rule. Please let me know if I violated some rule or norm.
The flight was DL159 on Tuesday. Flight aware shows the single engine diversion was 3 hours long.
The flight was DL159 on Tuesday. Flight aware shows the single engine diversion was 3 hours long.
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Thanks for clarifying.
That diversion was notable as one of the longer single engine diversions in ETOPS history. Although we've had 180 minute operations going on since the late 80s and ETOPS beyond 180 for more than a decade, there have been very few actual single engine diversions over two hours in airline service.
That diversion was notable as one of the longer single engine diversions in ETOPS history. Although we've had 180 minute operations going on since the late 80s and ETOPS beyond 180 for more than a decade, there have been very few actual single engine diversions over two hours in airline service.
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The cockpit has always been sensitive to liquid mishandling. I once had a ride in a DC8 across the Sahara to learn the intricacies of an inertial nav setup we were getting on another type.
The copilot spilled a very little orange juice and immediately two com VHF boxes and two ADF boxes went dead. The FE spent a long time unscrewing and drying out the boxes before we got one com and one ADF back.
Like throwing pennies into the engines, it is something you have to avoid by knowledge. On another airline, cabin crew were trained to pass drinks around the outside of pilots but even there, there were electrical and electronic items to be avoided.
I don't know why the recent thread on this was locked, although it did take a bit of a diversion ...
It was locked before I had a chance to post that I suspect the reason for the rumored discussions between operators and Airbus was an event earlier in the week of a Delta A350 diverting into Fairbanks following an unrestartable uncommanded engine shutdown on an Airbus A350 after liquid was spilled on the aisle stand.
It was locked before I had a chance to post that I suspect the reason for the rumored discussions between operators and Airbus was an event earlier in the week of a Delta A350 diverting into Fairbanks following an unrestartable uncommanded engine shutdown on an Airbus A350 after liquid was spilled on the aisle stand.
Righto, I’ll bite. If not this, what happened? Something unusual/interesting has been darkly hinted at on avherald.
Then the basic design of many things is weak. Try spilling water over your computer, radio, tv. There are things which have to be handled with care. You can’t design for everything, even in this lawyer dominated age.
The cockpit has always been sensitive to liquid mishandling.................
The cockpit has always been sensitive to liquid mishandling.................
Considering the price of an ACP or RMP, (aircraft communication boxes), it would not seem too much to ask for a similar level of protection against liquids. It is harder though, to seal a shaft that needs to turn, such as a volume control, and Comm boxes have lots of volume controls !
......On another airline, cabin crew were trained to pass drinks around the outside of pilots .
*Unlike the awful days of Lucas car electrics......shudder.
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At least the Airbus cockpit keyboards are officially liquid and coffee (conducting sugar) resistant.