Flybe in trouble ?

[Longtimer]

Chorus Aviation comments on the administration of Flybe Limited

Posted on March 5, 2020; Chorus Aviation Press Release
Earlier today, Flybe Limited (‘Flybe’) ceased operating and was placed in administration.
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Chorus had three ATR 72-600 and five Dash 8-400 aircraft on lease with Flybe.

These aircraft account for less than five per cent of the net book value of Chorus’ regional aircraft leasing segment fleet and less than five per cent of Chorus’ consolidated annualized 2019 EBITDA. Chorus holds security in respect of these aircraft and has a plan to manage their repossession and remarketing. Furthermore, Chorus’ loan agreements provide time and flexibility to remarket the aircraft.“We have planned for this contingency and are executing against our plan,” stated Steven Ridolfi, president, Chorus Aviation Capital. “We are currently in negotiations with prospects for these aircraft. As noted, these aircraft represent only a small portion of the value of our leased aircraft portfolio.”

[Jamie2009]

It's been over a month, anyone know where the fleet is? are still at the regional airports? if so where they are parked?
I know one Dash went from LHR to EXT.

Wonder what the plan is?

[LanceHudson]

Originally Posted by Jamie2009

It's been over a month, anyone know where the fleet is? are still at the regional airports? if so where they are parked?
I know one Dash went from LHR to EXT.

Wonder what the plan is?

A good few are still sitting on the apron at Edinburgh

[A380MSN0001]

You can find below the airports code where the Q400s are parked.

REG AIRCRAFT TYPE CONFIG DELIVERED REMARK AIRCRAFT NAME AGE
G-ECOA Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Dec 2007 Stored EXT 12.7 Years
G-ECOB Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jun 2009 Stored GLA 12.6 Years
G-ECOC Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Dec 2009 Stored CWL, lsd 12.2 Years
G-ECOD Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jul 2008 Stored ABZ, lsd 12.1 Years
G-ECOE Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jun 2010 Stored SOU 12 Years
G-ECOF Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Aug 2010 Stored MAN, lsd 11.9 Years
G-ECOG Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Oct 2008 Stored BHX, lsd 11.7 Years
G-ECOH Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 May 2014 Stored SOU, lsd Scotland 11.7 Years
G-ECOI Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Oct 2017 Stored MAN, lsd 11.7 Years
G-ECOJ Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jan 2009 Stored ABZ, lsd 11.6 Years
G-ECOK Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Oct 2017 Stored SOU, lsd 11.6 Years
G-ECOM Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Dec 2008 Stored SOU, lsd 11.5 Years
G-ECOO Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jan 2009 Stored EXT, lsd 11.2 Years
G-ECOP Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Apr 2009 Stored MAN, lsd 11.3 Years
G-ECOR Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Apr 2009 Stored BHX, lsd 11.2 Years
G-ECOT Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 May 2009 Stored MAN, lsd 10.9 Years
G-FLBA Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jul 2009 Stored BHD, lsd 10.9 Years
G-FLBB Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jul 2009 Stored BHX, lsd 11.1 Years
G-FLBC Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jul 2009 Stored EXT, lsd 11 Years
G-FLBD Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Oct 2010 Stored BHX, lsd Spirit of Inverness 11 Years
G-FLBE Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Oct 2010 Stored NQY, lsd Spirit of Exeter 10.9 Years
G-JECK Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jan 2006 Stored ABZ, lsd 14.4 Years
G-JECL Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jan 2006 Stored EXT, lsd 14.4 Years
G-JECM Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Apr 2006 Stored SOU, lsd 14.3 Years
G-JECN Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Apr 2006 Stored EDI, lsd 14.1 Years
G-JECO Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jul 2006 Stored EXT, lsd 14 Years
G-JECP Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Oct 2006 Stored GLA, lsd 13.7 Years
G-JECR Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Dec 2006 Stored EDI, lsd, Cancer Research sticker 13.6 Years
G-JECX Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jun 2007 Stored IOM, lsd 13.1 Years
G-JECY Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Mar 2014 Stored MAN, lsd Scotland 13.2 Years
G-JECZ Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Nov 2007 Stored BHX, lsd 12.7 Years
G-JEDM Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jul 2003 Stored EXT 17.7 Years
G-JEDP Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jan 2004 Stored EXT Spirit of Belfast 16.4 Years
G-JEDR Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Mar 2004 Stored EXT Spirit of Dublin 16.3 Years
G-JEDT Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Mar 2004 Stored BHD Spirit of Edinburgh 16.2 Years
G-JEDU Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Apr 2004 Stored BHD Spirit of the Regions 16.2 Years
G-JEDV Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 May 2004 Stored GLA Glasgow Abbotsinch International (GLA / EGPF)16.2 Years
G-JEDW Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jul 2004 Stored EDI 16.2 Years
G-KKEV Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Apr 2008 Stored MAN, lsd 12.2 Years
G-PRPA Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 May 2015 Stored EDI 12.5 Years
G-PRPB Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Jul 2015 Stored BHD 9.7 Years
G-PRPC Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Aug 2015 Stored SOU 9.6 Years
G-PRPD Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Nov 2015 Stored DUS 9.7 Years
G-PRPE Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Apr 2016 Stored BHD 12 Years
G-PRPF Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Dec 2016 Stored BHD 12.4 Years
G-PRPG Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Nov 2016 Stored BHD 12.5 Years
G-PRPH Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Oct 2016 Stored EXT 9.8 Years
G-PRPI Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Sep 2016 Stored EDI 12.1 Years
G-PRPJ Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Dec 2016 Stored EDI, lsd 12.2 Years
G-PRPK Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Feb 2017 Stored EXT, lsd 12.1 Years
G-PRPL Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Apr 2015 Stored BHX 8.7 Years
G-PRPM Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Apr 2017 Stored EDI, lsd 12.5 Years
G-PRPN Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 Mar 2017 Stored EXT, lsd 11.9 Years
G-PRPO Bombardier DHC-8-400 Y78 May 2017 Stored MAN, lsd 11.9 Years

[Pistonprop]

Wonder what the plan is?

Storage! I don't think anyone is looking for aircraft right at this moment!

[cats_five]

Originally Posted by Pistonprop

Storage! I don't think anyone is looking for aircraft right at this moment!

Why do the "quote" thingies not work anymore? I've noticed others having the same problem.

Look carefully, you managed to lose a square bracket

[A380MSN0001]

Originally Posted by Pistonprop

Storage! I don't think anyone is looking for aircraft right at this moment!

Why do the "quote" thingies not work anymore? I've noticed others having the same problem.

Maybe some urgent maintenance work at Flybe Aviation Services. Those are still running and not part of the collapse.

[Pistonprop]

Bracket found, thank you

[dixi188]

Originally Posted by airsouthwest

FAS is only doing a limited amount of maintenance I believe as most of the staff have been laid off. Although I wonder how practical it would be to bring as much of the fleet to Exeter so it can be maintained in house. I would imagine EXT could house 25-30 aircraft at a push?

I'm not sure you could get that many stored at EXT as a lot the north side has been taken up with the business park.

[A380MSN0001]

Originally Posted by airsouthwest

FAS is only doing a limited amount of maintenance I believe as most of the staff have been laid off. Although I wonder how practical it would be to bring as much of the fleet to Exeter so it can be maintained in house. I would imagine EXT could house 25-30 aircraft at a push?

Back in the days, when Flybe was operating what range of services FAS were providing? Were they able to provide all the checks?

[Webby737]

Originally Posted by A380MSN0001

Back in the days, when Flybe was operating what range of services FAS were providing? Were they able to provide all the checks?

They were able to provide all maintenance services up to D Check or equivalent on several types including the Dash 8, BAe 146/ Avro RJ and ATR.
They had a good reputation within the industry, hopefully someone will buy them and start third party work.

[dixi188]

Originally Posted by Webby737

They were able to provide all maintenance services up to D Check or equivalent on several types including the Dash 8, BAe 146/ Avro RJ and ATR.
They had a good reputation within the industry, hopefully someone will buy them and start third party work.

Up to about 3 years ago FAS were doing about 60-70% third party work and making a lot of money, but they were so busy that some of the FlyBe aircraft were going elswhere as hangar slots were all booked up.
With new management and changed priorities, a lot of third party work was turned away, I think it will be hard to get it back.

[Webby737]

Originally Posted by dixi188

Up to about 3 years ago FAS were doing about 60-70% third party work and making a lot of money, but they were so busy that some of the FlyBe aircraft were going elswhere as hangar slots were all booked up.
With new management and changed priorities, a lot of third party work was turned away, I think it will be hard to get it back.

I think given the current climate with Covid 19 and Brexit that they will struggle to find a buyer.
It's a shame as they did a great job, the companies that put their aircraft though there always seemed happy with them.

[dixi188]

I loved working in hangar 21. No spying eyes and mostly 146s.

[Webby737]

I only worked in Hangar 21, Hangars 1 and 2 weren't built when I was doing a bit off work there back in the late 90s.
It was a good place to work, happy memories. (Except for the bloody Dart Herald, I'm still traumatised !)

[dixi188]

I think you mean "Norman" who's been there forever.

[Arthur Bellcrank]

And Stanley and Darren plus a couple of others in workshops. Hope they soon find work.

[Webby737]

I was there when they were looking after the Dart Heralds and F27s for Channel Express as well as their own fleet of 146s, that would have been around 1996 - 1998.
People I remember are Pete Mankalo (probably spelt that incorrectly!), Dougie Butland and Adrian Webb, the name Paul Timms rings a bell.
Anyway, I hope the guys that were working there find jobs, as I mentioned earlier FAS had a good reputation within the industry so hopefully something should appear in the not too distant future.

[dixi188]

Unfortunately Dougie Butland died about 10 years ago. He never fully recovered after being knocked off his motorbike in 2007.

[Webby737]

Originally Posted by dixi188

Unfortunately Dougie Butland died about 10 years ago. He never fully recovered after being knocked off his motorbike in 2007.

Thats sad to hear Dixi, I had heard that Dougie had a bike accident but I never knew that he had passed away.