Ukrainian Aircraft down in Iran
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I think that is not unprecedented. For some strange reason, they do not appear to trust the Trump administration. My guess is that they will retain control of the analysis and data retrieval with the assistance of experts from a country more friendly to them. My money is on Germany.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the analysis isn’t done by BEA in France. Weren’t they the chosen impartial experts chosen by Ethiopia ?
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I'm not reading anything sinister in to Iran's refusal to hand them over to Boeing ther than current tensions.
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Can anybody explain/elaborate on this?
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Hi there guys, signed up to share this information with you. We also located site of the crash and direction, which aligns with the photos in the media already. It does appear they were on a heading back to the airport.
Crash site: 35°33'42.71"N 51° 6'11.98"E
Cant post images as this is a new account so I put them on imgur:
imgur.com/a/cUjWqyj
Crash site: 35°33'42.71"N 51° 6'11.98"E
Cant post images as this is a new account so I put them on imgur:
imgur.com/a/cUjWqyj
If the aircraft had a long time on the ground between flights then you might well have two sets of cockpit crew to manage the duty time. We used to do this sometimes with certain night rotations.
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In case of Tehran, it probably means, that they do not change crews in Tehran, but fly in and out with the same crew, and the crew is big enough to do that legally, some of the crew being off duty for one leg or parts of it.
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An article in the Globe and Mail says, "Many of the Canadians on board were believed to be Iranian-Canadian students returning to school after the holidays. Flying Ukrainian International Airlines, via the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv, is one of the cheapest routes from Tehran to Toronto." I've read a comment elsewhere that "the Tehran-Kiev-Toronto route is a popular low-cost connection for family visits for the big population of Canadians of Iranian ancestry living in Toronto".
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One should not conclude missile or uncontained engine debris just from photos of holes in the fuselage etc. Violent breakup events also produce holes like in the photos. In order to assess such differences you need to examine the hole surfaces both macroscopically and as a pattern. Just from photos like above is not enough.
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Looking for any higher resolution images on Google, i found this one, showing the large fuselage side actually covered in rocks and pebbles rather than small holes...
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Curious as to why somone was filming this particular flight on their mobile phone early in the morning unless they were expecting something to happen to it......... ..... and then continuing to follow when it was almost out of sight behind trees....
Many thanks, this pretty much changes all the speculation. As I mentioned before, it would have been highly unlikely for authorities to have given the pres access to the wreckage if they had someting to hide.
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Remember Air France flight 4590? That was 20 years ago - somebody caught that on film...
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