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Ukrainian Aircraft down in Iran

Old 5th Jan 2022, 11:18
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Originally Posted by RatherBeFlying View Post
Iran Air 655
In both cases the missile operators believed they were under fire.
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Not sure this is you meant . That the aircraft they tracked was an hostile, yes, but both there were not under fire from anyone.
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Originally Posted by ATC Watcher View Post
Not sure this is you meant . That the aircraft they tracked was an hostile, yes, but both there were not under fire from anyone.
Probably what was meant is that in both cases operators assumed there was an imminent and threat from the target. Not shooting at them (at that moment, at least) but could be momentarily should a decision not be taken.

The fact that the first missile was shot 20 seconds after seeing the target shows just how heated the situation must have been on the Tor. Having read the report I buy the Iranian version of events. The Canadian ruling that it was a terrorist attack and that the Iranians knew what they were shooting at is either political or incompetence on the Canadian's part.

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Originally Posted by Vitek View Post
The Canadian ruling that it was a terrorist attack and that the Iranians knew what they were shooting at is either political or incompetence on the Canadian's part.
It is indeed unfortunate that stupid incompetence by the Iranian military has now been followed by stupid incompetence by the Canadian legal system. Rather invalidates everything. It's a shame, normally the Canadians are better at things than this.

Meanwhile, surprising is the complete silence by Ukraine, who one would have thought were even more central to this than Canada. But nothing. Was the Tor missile actually supplied by Ukraine, from onetime Soviet stocks ? Or did Ukraine do the training on them ?
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