Icelandair Maxes ferried to Spain with flaps 1?
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Icelandair Maxes ferried to Spain with flaps 1?
Icelandair have been ferrying their five MAX-8's to Lleida, Spain (LEDA) for storage. The ferry flights are being conducted with Flap 1 to eliminate the possibility of MCAS activating. Since the limitation for flight with flaps extended is FL200, the flights are being flown at FL190, hence the fuel stop in Shannon. Looking at the indirect routing it appears that they have been avoiding French airspace.
http://www.b737.org.uk/tf-icy.htm
Belt and braces I guess, but seems a long trip with the flaps out.
http://www.b737.org.uk/tf-icy.htm
Belt and braces I guess, but seems a long trip with the flaps out.
We once ferried an A330 back from Sanford, KSFB, with the gear locked down.............at FL250 and 250kts.........long story. I cannot remember the fuel flow now, but we had to refuel at Goose Bay.
Odd, though that the MCAS cannot be deactivated by the engineers? I suppose inoperative MCAS is a no-go item on a Max?
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Indeed, but only flap 1. What would that be, 10% - 20% extra burn?
We once ferried an A330 back from Sanford, KSFB, with the gear locked down.............at FL250 and 250kts.........long story. I cannot remember the fuel flow now, but we had to refuel at Goose Bay.
Odd, though that the MCAS cannot be deactivated by the engineers? I suppose inoperative MCAS is a no-go item on a Max?
We once ferried an A330 back from Sanford, KSFB, with the gear locked down.............at FL250 and 250kts.........long story. I cannot remember the fuel flow now, but we had to refuel at Goose Bay.
Odd, though that the MCAS cannot be deactivated by the engineers? I suppose inoperative MCAS is a no-go item on a Max?
To me, it suggests that there is something fundamentally wrong with the natural balance of the aircraft occasioned by the revised engine installation (or whatever) and it requires the intervention of the MCAS gizmo to disguise this. Pulling a few plugs in the harness evidently won't do.
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Yes, Uplinker, I think we all remember that little escapade. I seem to remember that crew did not believe the fuel consumption figures that they were given on their PLOG. Thought they knew better and could get all the way back. Thank goodness for Goose!
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Other aircraft reported F1 as approx 7% more fuel burn. But that's at the same altitude. They're flying F1 at FL190 instead of cruising at OPT ALT which would be FL360 or higher depending upon weight. The difference in altitude is approx. 25-30% plus the additional drag from the flaps. Maybe 35% overall??
Silk Air is flying Max from Singapore to Alice Springs in Australia.
That would be around 2800nm...
A few drinkie stops?
That would be around 2800nm...
A few drinkie stops?
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These planes have been sitting for months. Now they're being moved to a storage facility. Is that an indication that the operators have gotten the word that they won't be flying any time soon?
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Storage costs would be much cheaper in Lleada and Alice, and there would be less clutter at busy airports where parking is at a premium. Rumour has it the the fee for the 5 TUI Maxes parked down the end of the taxiway at MAN is around 2000 GBP a day.
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Airlines moving their aircraft from cold or humid areas to dryer warmer climates doesn’t sound like airlines preparing to return the aircraft to service any time soon.
I wonder if the extra maintenance engineers hired by Boeing in July are being paid ‘waiting time’? ��
I wonder if the extra maintenance engineers hired by Boeing in July are being paid ‘waiting time’? ��