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Serious indeed!
https://www.facebook.com/donate/4148...8740135647991/
Just reach into your wallet and pour those Dollars into the endless hole.
This Captain who initiated the fundraiser must be oblivious to the fact why Norwegian got in to this predicament in the first case and also desperate (?) enough to pay to get his job back.
Or maybe I just don't get people these days?
https://www.facebook.com/donate/4148...8740135647991/
Just reach into your wallet and pour those Dollars into the endless hole.
This Captain who initiated the fundraiser must be oblivious to the fact why Norwegian got in to this predicament in the first case and also desperate (?) enough to pay to get his job back.
Or maybe I just don't get people these days?
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I would be really careful there.
Maybe it is really a serious fund, honestly willing to support Norwegian, well 85.000.000 USD - wow - a bit far off reality. But okay.
But there is at least the possibility of a risk, that this guy just wants fill his pockets by taking advantage over the difficult situation the employees (or even colleagues) of Norwegian currently are.
Maybe it is really a serious fund, honestly willing to support Norwegian, well 85.000.000 USD - wow - a bit far off reality. But okay.
But there is at least the possibility of a risk, that this guy just wants fill his pockets by taking advantage over the difficult situation the employees (or even colleagues) of Norwegian currently are.
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it is all relative, according the FB funding stats, they try to get 85 millions EUR in the next 44 days . they got 82 replies and 2500 euros so far , so 30 eur per person on average , at this rate to get to their 85 M they would need to convince 3 million people 
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where does it stop, assuming Norwegian survive this person will next suggest to the blind followers:-
Lets all pay our hotel rooms ourselves and taxis to and from the airport
as a bonus let’s also pay the fuel we uplift too.
Lets all pay our hotel rooms ourselves and taxis to and from the airport
as a bonus let’s also pay the fuel we uplift too.
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The bit I do not quite understand is the role of Wizzair in that . I know Norway is not in the EU so why is a Hungarian airline now operating domestic flights in there ? Was that the reason the Norwegian government refused to further bail them out ?
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One can only speculate for the reason why they "refused", I would chose to use the word "declined" instead.
They probably got to see some of their books and saw that what ever the airline is saying is not deemed to be realistic.
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At this point in time it is a overstatement to say that Norwegian is critical to the Norwegian infrastructure. That argument is not valid.
They have SAS (who is being held under the arms by the Swedish and Danish state, and partly by subsidised routes in Norway)
Wideroe, and now also Wizz Air to keep the prices down. Oh, and a new start up with one of the Braathens family members.
Why would they dump money into Norwegian?
They probably got to see some of their books and saw that what ever the airline is saying is not deemed to be realistic.
Edit:
At this point in time it is a overstatement to say that Norwegian is critical to the Norwegian infrastructure. That argument is not valid.
They have SAS (who is being held under the arms by the Swedish and Danish state, and partly by subsidised routes in Norway)
Wideroe, and now also Wizz Air to keep the prices down. Oh, and a new start up with one of the Braathens family members.
Why would they dump money into Norwegian?
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Norway is not in the EU, but a full member in the single market which does include aviation, therefore any EU airline could offer domestic flights if it wanted, same as Norwegian could do domestic flights in the EU. That is unlike switzerland which is not a full member of the EU aviation agreements.
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decoded and Denti thanks or the explanations .Got it.
I just read elsewhere that Wideroe is the only European airline to fly at nearly the same capacity as in 2019 ( only minus 3% last week. ) Norwegian air shuttle is minus 65% and SAS at minus 78%, both in line with the vast majority of the rest of the majors.
So SAS has the capacity to take over the Norwegian shuttle routes , which they mostly shared with them anyway. The fares likely to go up, I agree , but let's get real , is that really a bad thing at the moment ?
I just read elsewhere that Wideroe is the only European airline to fly at nearly the same capacity as in 2019 ( only minus 3% last week. ) Norwegian air shuttle is minus 65% and SAS at minus 78%, both in line with the vast majority of the rest of the majors.
So SAS has the capacity to take over the Norwegian shuttle routes , which they mostly shared with them anyway. The fares likely to go up, I agree , but let's get real , is that really a bad thing at the moment ?
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Norwegian have dodged many a bullet in the past and whilst they were in a hole pre covid there was a path out that looked possible, few doubt that it was a good product and a good company to work for, I did 8 years, pay always on time, whether that be Conair, Arpi, NAS, OSM, we all knew cost control was a joke, day off money often £1500 a day (double day off payments) often for days on end.
Its only hope is the Norwegian government for whom it would be petty cash with a trillion £ sovereign wealth fund, but you'd have to ask why, cheaper to start from scratch SAS prices will go through the roof.
Its only hope is the Norwegian government for whom it would be petty cash with a trillion £ sovereign wealth fund, but you'd have to ask why, cheaper to start from scratch SAS prices will go through the roof.
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Who said the Norwegian politicians “declined”? The government did, but please do remember that Norway is presently ruled by a minority government, and last time I checked, Norway is still a democracy, and watching this evening news in Norway, this is far, far from over. The opposition are up in arms, and busy forming a coalition in order to save Norwegian. As far as I can gather, the majority of political parties are now willing to go in and save Norwegian. 2021 is also election year, and the Norwegian people love their local airline.
Things can quickly turn around for Norwegian : A vaccine should be available early 2021, the max is about to be recertified and the Boeing billion dollar compensation$$$ ?
Who said the Norwegian politicians “declined”? The government did, but please do remember that Norway is presently ruled by a minority government, and last time I checked, Norway is still a democracy, and watching this evening news in Norway, this is far, far from over. The opposition are up in arms, and busy forming a coalition in order to save Norwegian. As far as I can gather, the majority of political parties are now willing to go in and save Norwegian. 2021 is also election year, and the Norwegian people love their local airline.
Things can quickly turn around for Norwegian : A vaccine should be available early 2021, the max is about to be recertified and the Boeing billion dollar compensation$$$ ?
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Another interesting article, especially the last part, talking about saving only the Norwegian part of the company:
https://www.nettavisen.no/okonomi/se...424045855.htmlThe Center Party has already tried to get the FRP and the Labor Party to join a joint crisis package without success, but now Arnstad is coming up with two concrete proposals that she will put forward in the Storting.
She asks party leaders to quickly clarify whether they want to support them:
- One is that we will ask the government to present the same type of support scheme that they have given to the rest of the business community, to the aviation industry. The second is that we believe it is necessary to have a new dialogue with Norwegian to save the Norwegian part of the company, ie the air routes in Norway and the Norwegian workplaces, Arnstad says to NTB.
https://www.nettavisen.no/okonomi/se...424045855.htmlThe Center Party has already tried to get the FRP and the Labor Party to join a joint crisis package without success, but now Arnstad is coming up with two concrete proposals that she will put forward in the Storting.
She asks party leaders to quickly clarify whether they want to support them:
- One is that we will ask the government to present the same type of support scheme that they have given to the rest of the business community, to the aviation industry. The second is that we believe it is necessary to have a new dialogue with Norwegian to save the Norwegian part of the company, ie the air routes in Norway and the Norwegian workplaces, Arnstad says to NTB.
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The Scandi part alone generated more than 20 billion kr in yearly revenue, so I dont see them confined to Norway only. Retrench to Scandi bases with a 100 frames, fortify and build from there. The rest will follow. The politicians are debating as we speak...