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Hard times for Norwegian

Old 9th Jun 2020, 20:27
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https://www.travelweekly.co.uk/artic...gian-air-board

Former Tui and EasyJet Director? I’m hoping this might be an indication of something positive.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 21:41
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Norwegian UK staff have officially been given their 1 month notice of redundancy. Last day 9th July.
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Old 9th Jun 2020, 22:41
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I think you’re alluding to the redundancies of Red (ground) handling staff at LGW. With LGW ops currently not forecast to restart until April 2021 for Norwegian, it was obviously felt unsustainable to retain staff until then.

sad times.
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 07:52
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Pilots included.
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 08:43
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So they're paying one month's notice - were the pilots contracted to one month's notice or three (when they resign)? - if it's three, I believe you can sue them for three months pay, as I was told an unequal notice contract is illegal.
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 09:31
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This is relating to the 87 Long Haul Pilots being made redundant from Rishworth/Global Crew UK. BALPA is pushing the agency to do the right thing, having ‘appeared’ to have taken advantage of the temporary change in terms & conditions in order to qualify for the U.K. government JRS.
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 10:49
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As far as the UK employment laws go:

Notice periods

You must be given a notice period before your employment ends.

The statutory redundancy notice periods are:
  • at least one week’s notice if employed between one month and 2 years
  • one week’s notice for each year if employed between 2 and 12 years
  • 12 weeks’ notice if employed for 12 years or more
Check your contract. Your employer may give you more than the statutory minimum, but they cannot give you less.
The "agency" cannot claim back the redundancy payments vis the UK JRS, therefore they will try and keep it to the minimum they think they can get away with. Sadly, the furlough payments will end for the crews.

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Old 10th Jun 2020, 12:15
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They got that angled nice and covered too. Even if the NP was 3 months either way, they would just go ahead and shut shop, claiming insolvency as Norwegian was their sole client, without which they have no income.



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Old 12th Jun 2020, 21:28
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero View Post
Pilots included.
no they are not. Don’t spin out utter BS, times are hard enough.
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Old 12th Jun 2020, 23:20
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“There is no doubt that leisure traffic will rebound before business travel and we will be perfectly placed to strategically and geographically take advantage of this,” Chief Executive Jacob Schram said in a statement.

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-he...-idUKKBN23G1S7


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Old 13th Jun 2020, 09:58
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Optimistic and bullish quote from Jacob Schram when Norwegian have effectively dispensed with all their crew. I wondered if they were keeping half an eye on what the other airlines would do, which is understandable, but if they've got no one to actually fly the aircraft, NAI are surely already dead in the water?
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 11:07
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Nobody to fly the aircraft? Have you been living under a rock for the past four months?

Even if they had "dispensed with all their crew", which they haven't, it's not going to be hard to find pilots to fly the aircraft.
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 12:41
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Pretty much, just the Norwegian based people left.
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 13:48
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Originally Posted by Vokes55 View Post
Nobody to fly the aircraft? Have you been living under a rock for the past four months?

Even if they had "dispensed with all their crew", which they haven't, it's not going to be hard to find pilots to fly the aircraft.
Having a close relative flying for them, I can assure you the crew “have been dispensed with” They’ve been asked to return uniforms and passes, so that’s a pretty final statement.

If NAI hope to start flying again soon, it’ll be a pretty major undertaking to recruit, train and update licenses for new flight crew, let alone the time implications. Particularly illogical when they have let go an existing team who could have been available at a short notice.
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 14:25
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I can assure you that no one in the U.K. has returned any uniform or I.D.’s - it was mentioned in a Workplace post on May 5th, but never followed through. Ex colleagues (for now) in ARN & CPH bases have handed back said items which have been tagged and put into storage for ‘Ron. Due to the A-typical employment method, Norwegian crew are all in limbo, receiving JRS, but not knowing if we’ll return to flying or be made redundant? BALPA and OSM UK are working together for the best Possible outcome, with limited information coming from Norwegian.
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 15:21
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Sadly, this relative is at a Spanish base so SEPLA are fighting for a fair outcome from NAI.
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Old 13th Jun 2020, 16:34
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Fair play. Norwegian are going to learn the hard way, that they can’t treat people this way. It is clear as day, that Norwegian is the employer in all regions; Spain, U.K. Finland etc.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 20:01
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https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-he...-idUKKBN23L09V

And abandoning quarantine too.

Norwegian might be needing those crew members after all, if it’s not going to be left standing.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 20:30
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Originally Posted by flyboy146 View Post
no they are not. Don’t spin out utter BS, times are hard enough.
Fly boy (I'll try to be nice about this)

Are you for real? Worked for NUK yourself? I have notice of redundancy from GCUK I'm ready to rub on your face.
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Old 14th Jun 2020, 23:13
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I am very well aware that GCUK have made redundancies. You’ve been totally shafted by them and their approach to redundancy package (or lack of) you have nothing but my sympathy.

You clearly implied all UK pilots have been made redundant which as you well know is BS. All of the Norwegian/OSM UK Crew are still employed.

Let’s not get into username slagging. PPRuNe is largely full of detritus threads as it is.
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