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[Uplinker]

@ giggity, No, I meant is it allowed to physically remove an entire seat row from the aircraft without specific permission, (not just render it inop with placards, but leave in place, as the MEL states)?

@ FrequentSLF, No one is forcing you to read this thread. This case is unusual in that two seat backs are completely absent rather than being present but inop. Trains and buses do not have such highly enforced passenger safety procedures as aircraft.

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by Uplinker

No, I meant is it allowed to physically remove an entire seat row from the aircraft without specific permission, (not just render it inop with placards, but leave in place, as the MEL states)?

I can't see any airworthiness-related reason why the row could not be removed. The effect on W&B would be negligble, particularly as it's over the wing and, as discussed above, leaving it in situ with bits sticking up could be deemed a potential hazard.

A cynic might suggest that EZY left the row in place so they could continue to sell the window seat (not placarded in the photo) ...

[pattern_is_full]

I guess I find the "It's OK according to the MEL" argument a red herring. The question of airworthiness is only one part of the problem.

When you show up to do your job as a professional pilot (like it says on the site header) - are you wearing a T-shirt, cutoff shorts, and flipflops?

If not, why not?

The aircraft should look as professional and competent as the pilots do.

[FlightDetent]

Originally Posted by pattern_is_full

The aircraft should look as professional and competent as the pilots do.

Would you expect a pilot with the shirt stained by coffee to cancel a (return) flight, because the looks do not conform to the professional standard the passengers assume to have paid for?

In a very similar fashion, there is logistics and resources allocation involved. I strongly oppose the idea EZY just want it that way. Per EU 261 those two denied boarding places cost to the tune of 3500 GBP a day, plus you need to get the passengers where they booked to anyway.

At the absolute peak of the summer season, what if the A/C failed to meet its new seats somewhere mid-week due to being sent to recover some other AOG'd?

[hans brinker]

Originally Posted by fergusd

So, screw the pax safety is an acceptable money making policy ?

I'd get off . . . and no amount of harassment from the flight crew would stop me.

When it comes to screw you from the airline . . . screw you is an appropriate response . . .

Safety last eh ? . . .

Same observation on drunk pilots, and . . . and . . . and . . .

Let's start with reading comprehension. Your response was to a passenger who said nothing about airline safety, just that he would like the legroom. You went of on a rant, so I tried to explain (unsuccessfully apparently) his post had nothing to do with airline safety. What followed was another rant about airline safety, now including drunk pilots....
Maybe you need a nap or something....

[cappt]

I've seen many seats with broken backrest recline mechanisms. The MEL clearly states how to take the seat out of service, if the broken seat effects the one behind it then that seat/row must also be taken out of service and "Do not occupy" placards attached.
In twenty one years I've never seen seats with the entire back removed and operation of the aircraft with PAX allowed. Can anyone point that out in the MEL?

[Lord Farringdon]

Originally Posted by cappt

I've seen many seats with broken backrest recline mechanisms. The MEL clearly states how to take the seat out of service, if the broken seat effects the one behind it then that seat/row must also be taken out of service and "Do not occupy" placards attached.
In twenty one years I've never seen seats with the entire back removed and operation of the aircraft with PAX allowed. Can anyone point that out in the MEL?

That would be my question too. While everything seems to be in accordance with the MEL, there is something still not right about this whole thing and i think it is the difference between the seat equipment being inoperative and placarded as such vs it being dismantled and therefore in a state of repair. Not just inop.