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Old 20th Jul 2019, 11:16
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The US Navy caught up quickly.

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Old 20th Jul 2019, 11:38
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Typical artist idea. A future aeroplane. Make it look like a, like a, bird. What a surprise. Like airport terminals that get built like a wing by the thousands.
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Originally Posted by atakacs
Ok I'll bite: what are we looking at?!
"Airbus has revealed a hybrid-electric 80-seat airliner design – with "feathered" wing and tail structures mimicking an eagle or falcon.

However, the 1m (3ft)-long model, dubbed Bird of Prey, is unlikely to give too much away about the airframer's future developments in the commercial arena. It is "not intended to represent an actual aircraft concept". Instead, its purpose is to "inspire a new generation of aeronautical engineers", says Airbus, which displayed the model at the Royal International Air Tattoo (RIAT) on 19 July."

from https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...oncept-459783/
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 23:27
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Typical artist idea. A future aeroplane. Make it look like a, like a, bird. What a surprise. Like airport terminals that get built like a wing by the thousands.

You'll find past and present aircraft designers also looked to the birds....
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 23:46
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Originally Posted by Gove N.T.
It’s a concept FFS. It’s there to give ideas for engineers of the future about how they can mimic the masters of flight. Luddites scoffed at concept cars of 20 years ago which are now being mass produced in part. Hybrids, fully electric are now common place. So don’t scoff and mock like the Luddite of not so long ago
Well, I suppose it might be that the feathers are the visible sign of a much more active management of the control surfaces, made possible by increased computing power: birds do seem to manage more by constant adjustments of their feathers than by inherent stability: presumably there's an energy advantage there, if nature goes that way (except for birds that spend a lot of time gliding, and that's not really an exception). The fuselage-wing join reminds me of an upside-down F4U Corsair, and I suppose there'd be similar advantages: an aerodynamic wing, and the geometry helps with large propellers.

But you would have to wonder about noise, and certification of a control system like that for civil use. And it looks like the sort of thing school kids doodle in their exercise books, but maybe that's the real point: get the doodling focused on practicality and energy efficiency, rather than speed.
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Old 21st Jul 2019, 19:23
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A very nice looking plane. And some of it is quite realistic. The curved wing roots have been used on A380, multiblade props are used on An-70, albeit with fewer blades.

The looks are designed for marketing. Most European heads of military departments are now civilian and some of them are women. Like any project, it needs initial financing, and that comes from government funds, so the looks are designed to impress the voters. Strong first impressions will help when it comes to voting for preliminary contracts based on this concept.

Well done, Airbus.
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Old 21st Jul 2019, 21:09
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The fuselage-wing join reminds me of an upside-down F4U Corsair....
Yes, had the same thought. It also, for some reason, reminds me of a PBY. I guess it looks like it's made for water landings....
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Old 21st Jul 2019, 22:01
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Difference compared to Airbus A400 M Atlas

The A400 M Atlas has counter rotating propellers on each wing, configured such that the propeller blades travel downwards between the engines on a wing - this mock up has the blades travelling upwards between the engines on the same wing. I wonder if there is a technical reason behind that, or just happenstance when somebody constructed the mock up.
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