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Old 19th Jul 2019, 18:53
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Is this the same airport where the 757 tried to do a mid-runway "Y"-turn using reverse to avoid a full backtaxi sometime recently? I can't keep all the Greek islands clear in my mind.
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 19:05
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full
Is this the same airport where the 757 tried to do a mid-runway "Y"-turn using reverse to avoid a full backtaxi sometime recently? I can't keep all the Greek islands clear in my mind.
Yes, a TOM 757 in June 2017.
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Old 19th Jul 2019, 21:57
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Originally Posted by Doors to Automatic


Risking the craft and all on board to make a turn-off doesn’t seem like a sensible strategy to me, especially as a relatively small aircraft like this can presumably turn around at any point along the runway once stopped.

With almost 50% of the airline’s entire movements landing at LCY, I am quite surprised this airline had one of its aircraft end up in this position. It is not as if they are lacking in experience of short-field ops!
Seems like a load of rough pilots. Hard on A/C, therefore expensive. Makes me wonder how they treat their partners? Rough I expect, instead of gentle and with respect.
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 08:52
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The controler also lives on the other site, closing the road would mean nobody would man the tower😱
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 17:49
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Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur
In this instance selective use of a telephoto lens!!
That is very clearly not a telephoto but a wide-angle lens. The distortion is telling to anyone who isn't a total amateur.
Probably a Gopro.
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 18:27
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Originally Posted by krautland
That is very clearly not a telephoto but a wide-angle lens. The distortion is telling to anyone who isn't a total amateur.
Probably a Gopro.
See post #6.
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Old 20th Jul 2019, 19:37
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Originally Posted by Doors to Automatic
With almost 50% of the airline’s entire movements landing at LCY, I am quite surprised this airline had one of its aircraft end up in this position. It is not as if they are lacking in experience of short-field ops!
LCY and JSI are not really similar airports apart from being "short". The steep approach into LCY is an ILS which is flown to a quite strict procedure while it's more or less eyeballs and PAPI into JSI and the approach angle and visuals are quite different.

I wonder whether the aircraft had a HGS.

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Old 24th Jul 2019, 07:13
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I'll take seriously comments from drivers who have actually flown the JSI approach and, frankly, nobody else. Its tricky to say the least and there is no terminal space so timing is important hence a few unorthodox activities... The whole thing is made more spectacular because you can walk or drive right past the threshold, so its a spotters / youtubers paradise.
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 09:21
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Fair comment.

If the third party risks are that high, as you seem to be hinting at, why is your company allowing you to operate into such an airport?
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 09:28
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Originally Posted by Dan_Brown
If the third party risks are that high
and why increase the third party risks by flying closer to them than is predicated? (And yes I've flown to JSI).
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 06:12
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Been there several times. FL 40, full reverse and an early touchdown. It’s all eyeballs. Xwind/turbulence can complicate matters.
This aircraft came in a bit low and made an early touchdown. The video shows this, but still people insist a flat approach will increase your landing distance. It may, but it’s not a fact.
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Old 25th Jul 2019, 09:54
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A flat approach has potential to increase landing distance only because the pilot tends to flare using the same technique as a normal approach.
if the nose is already higher than on a normal approach, then raising the nose in the usual way would lead to a higher AOA and a potential float.
its easier to imagine it in reverse on a steep approach. On a steep approach a normal flare would lead to a firm touchdown and reduced landing distance
as the energy is dissipated by virtue of the heavy landing.
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