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The Air Italy you tube clearly shows a PAPI on this runway. Experience at this particular airport shouldn't really matter if one adheres to basics IMO.
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Landing this direction at Skiathos isn’t particularly demanding - just need to get it stopped efficiently as the end of the runway is not in view (after touchdown) until a late stage.
Landing southerly at Skiathos is more demanding - particularly if there is an unforecast few knots of tailwind.
One of those “I am going to go-around unless I can land” airports.
Landing southerly at Skiathos is more demanding - particularly if there is an unforecast few knots of tailwind.
One of those “I am going to go-around unless I can land” airports.
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Why tea with or without biscuits.
looks to me what used to be called a visual approach, ok slightly flat but in the books before I packed it in there was no edict saying thou must follow ils, papi or anything else whilst doing so.
reading the above comments reminds me why I did pack it in.
loved being a pilot, hated being turned into an operator!
looks to me what used to be called a visual approach, ok slightly flat but in the books before I packed it in there was no edict saying thou must follow ils, papi or anything else whilst doing so.
reading the above comments reminds me why I did pack it in.
loved being a pilot, hated being turned into an operator!
Why tea with or without biscuits.
looks to me what used to be called a visual approach, ok slightly flat but in the books before I packed it in there was no edict saying thou must follow ils, papi or anything else whilst doing so.
reading the above comments reminds me why I did pack it in.
loved being a pilot, hated being turned into an operator!
looks to me what used to be called a visual approach, ok slightly flat but in the books before I packed it in there was no edict saying thou must follow ils, papi or anything else whilst doing so.
reading the above comments reminds me why I did pack it in.
loved being a pilot, hated being turned into an operator!
Not a tad low?
Like three tyre-widths above the barrier...low?
Why tea with or without biscuits.
looks to me what used to be called a visual approach, ok slightly flat but in the books before I packed it in there was no edict saying thou must follow ils, papi or anything else whilst doing so.
reading the above comments reminds me why I did pack it in.
loved being a pilot, hated being turned into an operator!
looks to me what used to be called a visual approach, ok slightly flat but in the books before I packed it in there was no edict saying thou must follow ils, papi or anything else whilst doing so.
reading the above comments reminds me why I did pack it in.
loved being a pilot, hated being turned into an operator!
Are you kidding?
Have you ever heard of a TCH?
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Why tea with or without biscuits.
looks to me what used to be called a visual approach, ok slightly flat but in the books before I packed it in there was no edict saying thou must follow ils, papi or anything else whilst doing so.
reading the above comments reminds me why I did pack it in.
loved being a pilot, hated being turned into an operator!
looks to me what used to be called a visual approach, ok slightly flat but in the books before I packed it in there was no edict saying thou must follow ils, papi or anything else whilst doing so.
reading the above comments reminds me why I did pack it in.
loved being a pilot, hated being turned into an operator!
you are having a laugh no ?
yes let’s ignore the GS, PAPis and anything else we have ( including judgement ) and squeak it across the hedge.
we can always get the twigs out the gear after .
Theres a “ bit low “, and then there is this .
Controversial, moi?
BA has a monitoring system which picks up incidents which fall outside of pre-determined values.
I know for a fact that this approach is being looked at. There will be one of two outcomes. If it is found to be a common occurence i.e. low on the approach and landing short of the TDZ at JSI then further investigation will uncover the causes and the issues causing the problem will be addressed. Or if the pilots' performance was lacking then they will receive further training.
Either way the issue will be addressed. Like any other major airline that sort of approach and touchdown is neither common nor acceptable.
Hands up any commercial pilot who has never made a bad error of judgement.
I know for a fact that this approach is being looked at. There will be one of two outcomes. If it is found to be a common occurence i.e. low on the approach and landing short of the TDZ at JSI then further investigation will uncover the causes and the issues causing the problem will be addressed. Or if the pilots' performance was lacking then they will receive further training.
Either way the issue will be addressed. Like any other major airline that sort of approach and touchdown is neither common nor acceptable.
Hands up any commercial pilot who has never made a bad error of judgement.
Hands up any commercial pilot who has never made a bad error of judgement
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Wearing my ex-ATCO hat, a fair few of the videos [not just the BA] show aircraft doing nothing resembling a 3º approach. Some seem level at 100' or so a mile or more out from the threshold.
"That's why STOL aircraft generally do steep approaches (up to 7.5 degrees) because the resulting mainwheel touchdown point is more accurate with less dispersion."
This sums it up nicely.
I am of the opinion, showmanship is a contributory factor in a lot of these occurrences. Seen it myself at St Maarten. No road traffic barriers either = bad news.
This sums it up nicely.
I am of the opinion, showmanship is a contributory factor in a lot of these occurrences. Seen it myself at St Maarten. No road traffic barriers either = bad news.
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Errr....why is that road there in the first place? What if I rent a double decker bus to drive around the island?
I bet my roof will be in the obstacle plain.
I have seen “tourists” blown away there by jet blast.
I bet my roof will be in the obstacle plain.
I have seen “tourists” blown away there by jet blast.
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As for the tourists, yes many have been blown across the road by the jet blast, last year someone was badly injured after being thrown onto the rocks in the bay and had to be transported to the mainland for urgent medical treatment.