How to squeeze in more pax, make them stand
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How to squeeze in more pax, make them stand
Ohh lovely, one can see these going down a treat at a certain Irish airline....
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/offbeat/new-stand-up-plane-seat-labelled-torture-chamber/ar-AADiKNk
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/offbeat/new-stand-up-plane-seat-labelled-torture-chamber/ar-AADiKNk
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I’ve been Rouged! 😤
Having had the appalling misfortune to have to fly Air Canada Rouge (A319) last week, I just hope a DVT class action lawsuit sues these loco nightmares into the oblivion where they belong...
The pitch was stated to be 29”. Like hell it was! Thank God the flight was only 1h 45m. As it was, I was unable to walk properly for half an hour after deplaning.
What’s the betting that we see such inhumane conditions on the new A321XLRs before too long???
The pitch was stated to be 29”. Like hell it was! Thank God the flight was only 1h 45m. As it was, I was unable to walk properly for half an hour after deplaning.
What’s the betting that we see such inhumane conditions on the new A321XLRs before too long???
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Even at 29 inches it's bloody tight! My "local" loco is Eurowings. They at least give you 30-32 inches. I have said many times before (and generally get shot down) that if it was internationally legislated that economy cannot be less than 32" it would raise fares a little yes, but no airline would be able to cram more seats in their aircraft as a means of increasing revenue. Wishful thinking? You bet! I just hope Eurowings don't join the 29 Club!
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Similar has been touted before. Among other considerations, what is the effect on the body of a massive deceleration, either longitudinal or vertical?
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+300 in the hold, 2 in the wheel wells and 1 in the stab. "Good morning Sir, you're sitting in the stabiliser seat, just need to check you're happy and physically capable of stopping the jackscrew in the event of MCAS activation"
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I first saw this touted as a Ryanair proposal about five years ago. Plausible, but may have been fake news.
The concept might well allow increased passenger loading but, I rather suspect, would be eliminating about 50% of your potential market: tall people, short people, old people, children, religious ladies, those with piles, etc, etc.
About as practical as some of the Air NZ "concept" seating / stacking arrangements that have cropped up over the last few years.
I'll believe it when I see exercise machines and bars installed (for more than a few weeks) on any commercial aircraft.
The concept might well allow increased passenger loading but, I rather suspect, would be eliminating about 50% of your potential market: tall people, short people, old people, children, religious ladies, those with piles, etc, etc.
About as practical as some of the Air NZ "concept" seating / stacking arrangements that have cropped up over the last few years.
I'll believe it when I see exercise machines and bars installed (for more than a few weeks) on any commercial aircraft.
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Having had the appalling misfortune to have to fly Air Canada Rouge (A319) last week, I just hope a DVT class action lawsuit sues these loco nightmares into the oblivion where they belong...
The pitch was stated to be 29”. Like hell it was! Thank God the flight was only 1h 45m. As it was, I was unable to walk properly for half an hour after deplaning.
What’s the betting that we see such inhumane conditions on the new A321XLRs before too long???
The pitch was stated to be 29”. Like hell it was! Thank God the flight was only 1h 45m. As it was, I was unable to walk properly for half an hour after deplaning.
What’s the betting that we see such inhumane conditions on the new A321XLRs before too long???
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Even at 29 inches it's bloody tight! My "local" loco is Eurowings. They at least give you 30-32 inches. I have said many times before (and generally get shot down) that if it was internationally legislated that economy cannot be less than 32" it would raise fares a little yes, but no airline would be able to cram more seats in their aircraft as a means of increasing revenue. Wishful thinking? You bet! I just hope Eurowings don't join the 29 Club!
In the bad old days, slave ships packed in as many people as possible.
They did this not by having them stand - but by having them lie down, which enabled the decks to be closer together.
While not advocating anything as drastic, it occurs to me that by adapting the Japanese pod hotel method, something close to business comfort could be attained for all pax on long range - and a second deck added without excessive height requirement.
Lots of reasons against - boarding, evacuation, weight and pax acceptance included but it might be worth a designer’s pencil on a slow day...
Fire away! B
They did this not by having them stand - but by having them lie down, which enabled the decks to be closer together.
While not advocating anything as drastic, it occurs to me that by adapting the Japanese pod hotel method, something close to business comfort could be attained for all pax on long range - and a second deck added without excessive height requirement.
Lots of reasons against - boarding, evacuation, weight and pax acceptance included but it might be worth a designer’s pencil on a slow day...
Fire away! B
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You said YOUR Eurowings gives you at least 30-32" and this is not correct. Most if not all Eurowings A320s are 180Y and most common seat pitch with them is 29", except a couple of front rows. And lots of 28" in the rear part. In order to start talking about 30" min across the board without Neo Flex config, you have do drop the capacity down to 168Y which was LH config before the cabin enhancement round a few years ago. So your home loco is in "29 club" since long ago, and also a member of "28 club".
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That's interesting. Contradicts Seat Guru (who state that the minimum is 30") and my personal experiences with them (A320/A319). I have sat front (first 3 rows), middle (next 9 rows) and at the rear with them. If the rear rows are 28" and I didn't experience any discomfort, then I must have shrunk in the past years!