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IAG LOI for 200 737 MAX

Old 21st Jun 2019, 10:09
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Originally Posted by Lord Bracken
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...premium-europe

Airbus claiming they never even received an invitation to tender for the deal...
Not yet they haven't, the term leverage comes to mind.
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Old 21st Jun 2019, 10:17
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Not much leverage available if pax won't travel on the Max in the future!
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Old 21st Jun 2019, 11:13
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This is just good business.

The negotiating position of Boeing is as weak as it is ever likely to be and they will be desperate for some good news so this is very best the time to make a deal knowing that the current issues will have to be resolved before any actual purchase and because it is only an LOI there is no commitment and the eventual outcome may be to enable a better deal from Airbus.
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Old 21st Jun 2019, 12:53
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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim
Not much leverage available if pax won't travel on the Max in the future!
The majority of pax won't even be aware.
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 11:47
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lots of jobs for baggage handlers then no containers on the old design !
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 12:19
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Originally Posted by bvcu
lots of jobs for baggage handlers then no containers on the old design !
always thought most 320 operators don’t use the containers anymore because it uses up too much volume?
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Old 22nd Jun 2019, 18:50
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Originally Posted by golfyankeesierra

always thought most 320 operators donít use the containers anymore because it uses up too much volume?
Most A320 operators never used containers to start with, but a rather large number still do. It does eat into your payload, both weight and volume wise, but on the other hand it allows for shorter turn-arounds, less manual handling and reduced staff requirements; a handling agent I know of does containerised A320 series with a ramp team of just two persons, and still easily achieves minimum turn-around times. One of their customers, incidentally, is BA.
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Old 23rd Jun 2019, 06:04
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Originally Posted by golfyankeesierra

always thought most 320 operators donít use the containers anymore because it uses up too much volume?
Most of the big ones in Europe do. BA, Iberia, Lufty, Swissy, Austrian (but not SN), Finnair, AF mostly (I don't think AF and BA do on the A318's though). Mind you the loco's don't, but some of their airfields barely have a set of stairs nevermind equipment to load containers.

On the other side of the world, I seem to remember NZ and Jetstar using them.

The US is of course the big exception, but they're "special" in many many ways.
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Old 23rd Jun 2019, 18:49
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If you recall the BA 737 fleet finished up in Gatwick for the end of their service to get rid of baggage handlers at Heathrow and shorten turnaround times , so wouldn't be surprised to see it being used to get a very good deal out of Airbus as there is no 'order' yet ..........
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Old 23rd Jun 2019, 21:14
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In my view there is very little difference between accepting an exceptionally low price to sign a letter of intent for the MAX in the current circumstance and accepting a cash payment to sign a letter of intent. Both as like accepting a bribe. I would like to see IAG charged with accepting a bribe and let them defend their actions. It is about time we set the bar a lot higher for corporate ethics and start sending directors to goal for poor ethics. If directors had gone to goal during the GFC maybe we would not have had MAX deaths.
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Old 23rd Jun 2019, 23:30
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Glad to see a major sale to a premiere customer.

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Originally Posted by PiggyBack
This is just good business.

The negotiating position of Boeing is as weak as it is ever likely to be and they will be desperate for some good news so this is very best the time to make a deal knowing that the current issues will have to be resolved before any actual purchase and because it is only an LOI there is no commitment and the eventual outcome may be to enable a better deal from Airbus.
I think thats very much the case sign an LOI and then ask Airbus what they can offer. Good business id say
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