IcelandAir fires Boeing 737 Max Pilots

[yanrair]

Originally Posted by DaveReidUK

I was wondering which accident that was, as it doesn't ring any bells.

Sorry Dave. My fault although that’s my point- nobody remembers!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turk...es_Flight_1951

official report “ cause - radio altimeter failure not noticed by crew”
Uhm!!
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[yanrair]

Originally Posted by Pistonprop

Yanrair, if you want to make a point, don't taint it with incorrect information. It only invalidates you as a reliable source in these forums. The great majority of passengers survived that accident in Amsrerdam.

you are correct Pistonprop.
There were nine fatalities and a total of 117 injuries, 11 of them serious.[50](p29,178–180) Five of the deceased victims were Turkish citizens, including the pilot, the co-pilot, a trainee pilot and one member of the cabin crew.[52][53][54][55] Four were Americans, of whom three have been identified as Boeing employees stationed in Ankara and working on an Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEW&C) program for the Turkish military.[7][16][48][56][57]

The plane carried 53 passengers from the Netherlands, 51 from Turkey, seven from the United States, three from the United Kingdom, one each from Germany, Bulgaria, and Italy, and one from either Thailand[58][59] or Taiwan.[56][57][60]
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I had forgotten the exact details , but not the crash which exposed some very bad crew responses. But my point was that even major crashes are quickly forgotten and I proved that by not recalling the details. We have short memories.
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[Helix Von Smelix]

Wasn't there two 737 NG that nose dived in to the ground on go around.
Russia?
I know one deffo did.

[yanrair]

Originally Posted by Helix Von Smelix

Wasn't there two 737 NG that nose dived in to the ground on go around.
Russia?
I know one deffo did.

FLY DUBAI 981 ROSTOV?

[Loose rivets]

Remind me what that accelerative disorientation is called.

[India Four Two]

somatogravic illusion is the phrase you are looking for, Rob

[Hotel Tango]

But my point was that even major crashes are quickly forgotten and I proved that by not recalling the details. We have short memories.

yanrair, I think that most of us remember THY at AMS. Some posters were only puzzled because you mentioned an accident at AMS which killed all passengers. That's what they couldn't remember, quite rightly, as there was no such accident! I think that what you proved is that YOU have a short memory!

[flysmiless]

Also Reykjavik-based airline also planning to dismiss 24 pilots while suspending the recruitment of another 21 pilots..

[TSR2]

Yanrair..

The radio altimeter fault WAS noticed by the Captain and he continually cancelled the warning. What was not noticed by the crew was the declining air speed.

[FalseGS]

Almost 10k hours on the NG/MAX.
Could you please tell me how to ‘cancel’ an RA warning?

[mik3bravo]

Originally Posted by Byros

Sad to see pilots lose their jobs due to the 737 MAX debacle, eventually when the plane flies again airlines will still have to deal with passengers who would rather book their flight on a different plane due to the bad reputation it has earned, in the end it could have a fate similar to the DC-10.

Reputation Damage irrevearsable in the a/c. Doubt pax will want to take a chance regardless what a corporation states.

[Chronus]

Originally Posted by golfyankeesierra

I wonder how the ”redundant” pilots will feel about that..

My guess would be, please add my name to the casualty list.

The question is how many more to be added to this list, not necessarily involving loss of life, but loss of livelihood.

[2Planks]

Regarding the issue about keeping the guys on and reclaiming from Boeing - cash flow may be an issue, given that Boeing are hiring a very expensive team of defense lawyers (from the other thread) it may be a long time before any compensation is paid - if at all. But if cash flow turns negative airlines lives are measure in weeks. Doesn't make it right, business is harsh.

When, and not if, the MAX flies again I am sure there will be a rebranding, MAX is too catchy a name. Had it been the 737-1100 or something similar it would have been forgotten. I suspect MAX has now entered the consciousness of the flying masses. Indeed, it doesn't help that Max is often associated with Mad thanks to a certain film and that's how I see it referred to on some travel/leisure forums. Something anodyne will be the order of the day.

[bzh]

737-800 NEO .....