US administration blames foreign pilots for 737 Max crashes
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When that new A320-111 crashed at the Mulhouse- Habsheim air show back in 1988 the French govt did manage to stick the blame on the pilot. So why blame Trump for trying to avert an even bigger disaster of Boeing going belly up.
(At least 1 737 has gone down in that time also ... we had an extended discussion here on PPRuNe on one that went down in Russia)
Suggest you also check gums' post. (IMO, the politicization of this is zero value added ... )
I take it you understand what happened? The aircraft did exactly what it was designed to do as outlined in the FCOMs. It seems that the pilot was surprised by that.
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The ultimate target is not more and more pilot training but aircraft that poorly pilots will be able to fly/ manage with safety.
You should not have to train pilots up to a new aircraft but make a new aircraft safer for the less trained pilot.
Nothing against pilot training but the facts are that, for various reasons, not all pilots are trained to the highest level.
You should not have to train pilots up to a new aircraft but make a new aircraft safer for the less trained pilot.
Nothing against pilot training but the facts are that, for various reasons, not all pilots are trained to the highest level.
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shaker on one side?
This keeps coming up and it came up in the hearing. (Yes, I watched it all). Will someone who has actually experienced stick shaker activation on one side only in a 737 please comment. Is the shaker also felt in the other mechanically linked column? I'm quite sure it would be on a DC10, MD-10 or MD-11. If it is felt then is it possible to determine if only one stick shaker motor is running?
Psychophysiological entity
Yes, I wondered that. I assumed there'd be a significant loss of the vibrational 'sharpness' in transmitting it across the connecting mechanics.
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FACT for you: some airlines are so egregiously bad that certain nations or aviation authorities ban them from their airspace.
If a gun shop sells a felon a weapon....
a bar sells a drunk another drink.
Every new generation of commercial aircraft has gotten safer than the previous generation (the MAX not withstanding). So you're going to take the countries and operators that need the most help with their aircraft safety and prevent them from purchasing new, safer aircraft. Effectively condemning them to operating older, less safe aircraft.
Brilliant
When that new A320-111 crashed at the Mulhouse- Habsheim air show back in 1988 the French govt did manage to stick the blame on the pilot.
Err, two wrongs don't make a right, as my Granny would say. And I'd hope that transparency in air safety is something we'd hope to see improving over three decades.
So why blame Trump for trying to avert an even bigger disaster of Boeing going belly up.
If that's indeed what is happening, I think Trump would be blameworthy,
Err, two wrongs don't make a right, as my Granny would say. And I'd hope that transparency in air safety is something we'd hope to see improving over three decades.
So why blame Trump for trying to avert an even bigger disaster of Boeing going belly up.
If that's indeed what is happening, I think Trump would be blameworthy,
Salute!
Thank you BFS,
I could not read the article as it is pay walled and it is also shown as "opinions" when I Googled it. So it has zero, if not negative credibility when considering the politically neutral WaPo, huh?
I'll wait for something with name, rank and serial number versus "sources". But I saw the hearing and I did not see a single official from NTSB or FAA agree with one or more of the clueless cmte members as to poorly trained or incompetent foreign crews. And of course, our Yeager clones here would have saved the day on both accidents.
Gums sends...
Never thought I'd see a Dana Milbank political screed used as the basis for a PPRuNe topic but here we are...
I could not read the article as it is pay walled and it is also shown as "opinions" when I Googled it. So it has zero, if not negative credibility when considering the politically neutral WaPo, huh?
I'll wait for something with name, rank and serial number versus "sources". But I saw the hearing and I did not see a single official from NTSB or FAA agree with one or more of the clueless cmte members as to poorly trained or incompetent foreign crews. And of course, our Yeager clones here would have saved the day on both accidents.
Gums sends...
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Salute!
Thank you BFS,
I could not read the article as it is pay walled and it is also shown as "opinions" when I Googled it. So it has zero, if not negative credibility when considering the politically neutral WaPo, huh?
I'll wait for something with name, rank and serial number versus "sources". But I saw the hearing and I did not see a single official from NTSB or FAA agree with one or more of the clueless cmte members as to poorly trained or incompetent foreign crews. And of course, our Yeager clones here would have saved the day on both accidents.
Gums sends...
Thank you BFS,
I could not read the article as it is pay walled and it is also shown as "opinions" when I Googled it. So it has zero, if not negative credibility when considering the politically neutral WaPo, huh?
I'll wait for something with name, rank and serial number versus "sources". But I saw the hearing and I did not see a single official from NTSB or FAA agree with one or more of the clueless cmte members as to poorly trained or incompetent foreign crews. And of course, our Yeager clones here would have saved the day on both accidents.
Gums sends...
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weren't both airplanes that crashed in fact totally controllable if the stab trim checklist were complied with?, regardless of where the pilots were from?
So that would a NO, or if the Yo-Yo was in the checklist a maybe but dependant on calibration tolerances.
And they were prepared for the reconstruction.
Quote - Sam Graves 15 May 2019.
"In the last decade, in the United States there have been nearly 7 Billion passengers flown on 90 Million flights with ONE fatality."
Atlas Air FLT 3591 - 23 Feb 2019 - 3 Fatal
SWA FLT 1380 - 17 Apr 2018 - 1 Fatal
UPS FLT 1354 - 14 Aug 2013 - 2 Fatal
National Air FLT 102 - 29 Apr 2013 - 7 Fatal
UPS FLT 6 - 3 Sep 2010 - 2 Fatal
"In the last decade, in the United States there have been nearly 7 Billion passengers flown on 90 Million flights with ONE fatality."
Atlas Air FLT 3591 - 23 Feb 2019 - 3 Fatal
SWA FLT 1380 - 17 Apr 2018 - 1 Fatal
UPS FLT 1354 - 14 Aug 2013 - 2 Fatal
National Air FLT 102 - 29 Apr 2013 - 7 Fatal
UPS FLT 6 - 3 Sep 2010 - 2 Fatal
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The USA pilots that did a SIM reconstruction used up all 8,000 ft of altitude to recover by using the yo-yo procedure not in MAX checklist.
So that would a NO, or if the Yo-Yo was in the checklist a maybe but dependant on calibration tolerances.
And they were prepared for the reconstruction.
So that would a NO, or if the Yo-Yo was in the checklist a maybe but dependant on calibration tolerances.
And they were prepared for the reconstruction.
think the issue may be does anybody learn to actually FLY anymore, or is it all procedures and checklists, any reerence to the USA sim re-constructions? what about trimming out the pitch when it happens and then stab trim de-activate...people are complaining they didnt know about MCAS, fair enough, regardless, take necessary actions to keep the airplane upright...
I have now lost all faith in this just fly the aircraft after this advocate of it. I would not want to be in an aircraft with this guy.
57:50 mark - AoA's explained.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?460584...ircraft-safety