Ethiopian airliner down in Africa
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TVS4160 is not heading towards Tel Aviv. It is now circling near Malta.
Given that both planes are not descending, maybe QS is negotiating for a waiver but wants them to be near IST and MLA in case that it does not come forward.
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Here is the question. I've posed this to three friends that are on Max fleets... "If this happened to you a week ago, would you be dead?" (2 captains, 1 F.O.) the answers ranged from "probably" to "yes"..... The most important question followed "have you reported this anonymously to at least your company?" Yes they have and to their national aviation authority.... We are in a period of public hysteria, but, us professionals are doing it right. If the media catches this, so be it, we ain't skygods no more.... Ask your friends the same question.
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The 737 incurs a pitch up moment with additional thrust because of engine placement and moment. Not because of “lift”. I’m glad you’re working on your multi engine ratings right now and went over vmc factors including accelerated induced flow.
Boeing’s passive voice responses to all of this is reminiscent of how they dealt with the accidents involving the faulty rudders on the 737s years ago.
One supposes if blame is pointed their way that they will pay compensation without admitted guilt. Big business. Our deaths get factored into the number crunches.
One supposes if blame is pointed their way that they will pay compensation without admitted guilt. Big business. Our deaths get factored into the number crunches.
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QS 4160 seems to have made up its mind to go somewhere..
Control column actuated stabilizer trim cutout switches stop operation of the main electric and autopilot trim when the control column movement opposes trim direction. When the STAB TRIM override switch is positioned to OVERRIDE, electric trim can be used regardless of control column position.
I just grabbed that from the NG tech manual. I’m assuming that the MAX has them as well?
I just grabbed that from the NG tech manual. I’m assuming that the MAX has them as well?
I don’t fly the 737, but the regional airliner I have flown for the last 20 years gives total control to the pilot once this button is pushed. Not even the yaw damper is retained. I mean Jesus H Christ! What the hell has happened to simple common sense in design?
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The minute they call a mayday they'll be given assistance and allowed in!
So, when it seems to be functioning fine they're told "Go away! You're not safe"
When they call a Mayday, "come on ahead into our country, we'll get some fire crew and ambulances"
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The irony of some flights not being allowed into the airspace:
The minute they call a mayday they'll be given assistance and allowed in!
So, when it seems to be functioning fine they're told "Go away! You're not safe"
When they call a Mayday, "come on ahead into our country, we'll get some fire crew and ambulances"
The minute they call a mayday they'll be given assistance and allowed in!
So, when it seems to be functioning fine they're told "Go away! You're not safe"
When they call a Mayday, "come on ahead into our country, we'll get some fire crew and ambulances"
excuse my ignorance but surely wouldn't it have been more sensible for the authorities to give a cut-off time of say, midnight tonight, instead of blanket bans everywhere? two aircraft have now spent hours more in the air than they needed to, no doubt inducing panic amongst the pax, being held then told to go elsewhere. QS4160 now landing Tunis and it looks like QS1201 enroute to Ankara, having held over the Black Sea. Knee jerk reactions when they have no actual factual data?
Why not say all aircraft once landed at destination have to be grounded? There was a max into MAN earlier today, AFTER the announcement.
Why not say all aircraft once landed at destination have to be grounded? There was a max into MAN earlier today, AFTER the announcement.