Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Rumours & News
Reload this Page >

LASER DC-3 crash in Colombia

Rumours & News Reporting Points that may affect our jobs or lives as professional pilots. Also, items that may be of interest to professional pilots.

LASER DC-3 crash in Colombia

Old 9th Mar 2019, 18:36
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Hadlow
Age: 55
Posts: 567
LASER DC-3 crash in Colombia

DC-3 HK-2494 has crashed at San Carlos de Guaroa, Colombia whilst on a flight from San Jose del Guaviare to Villavicencio. All twelve people on board were killed.

https://www.pulzo.com/nacion/estrell...-meta-PP657640
Super VC-10 is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2019, 18:45
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: east ESSEX
Posts: 2,937
Photo is a DC-9...
sycamore is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2019, 18:50
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: here and there
Age: 64
Posts: 72
another video here

vmandr is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2019, 19:35
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: DFFD Ouagadougou
Age: 57
Posts: 83
Did they perhaps try put it down on the road due to engine problems?
Raffles S.A. is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2019, 20:25
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Timbukthree
Posts: 5,891
From ASN of all authorities! I do know they have omitted some crashes but allowing this egregious error?

"09-MAR-2019 - [email protected] Aéro Colombia Douglas DC-3 accident: 12 dead
The Douglas DC-3 aircraft impacted a rural dirt road near Villavicencio under unknown circumstances. The aircraft fuselage forward of the wings was completely destroyed by the post-impact fire. There are no survivors. The authorities .... "



"3" in Spanish is Tres. "9" in Spanish is Nueve. Not even close. Poor handwriting by reporter? "Dos-motor Douglas" airliner? Maybe..

HK-2494 was indeed registered to a SADELCA Douglas DC-3. Aviation Safety Network (ASN) is currently listing this crash as a Douglas DC-3 built in 1945. Note that DC-3 production in 1945 was sidelined for production of military C-47 type(s).

Last edited by evansb; 9th Mar 2019 at 21:00.
evansb is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2019, 21:00
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Timbukthree
Posts: 5,891
HK-2494:



There is a YV-2945 McDonnell Douglas MD-82 (DC-9-82) registered to [email protected]

Last edited by evansb; 9th Mar 2019 at 21:15.
evansb is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2019, 22:14
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: cheese
Posts: 49
There are a number of older videos on YouTube of HK 2494. Probably not really relevant to this accident, but interesting.


short bus is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2019, 22:32
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Europe
Posts: 3,251
It was operated by L A S E R Aero in a mainly blue livery. There are more current photos of the aircraft on the net.
Hotel Tango is offline  
Old 9th Mar 2019, 22:34
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Rockytop, Tennessee, USA
Posts: 4,713
A picture of the crash site from social media.


Airbubba is online now  
Old 9th Mar 2019, 22:39
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
Age: 74
Posts: 1,029
HK-2494 was indeed registered to a SADELCA Douglas DC-3. Aviation Safety Network (ASN) is currently listing this crash as a Douglas DC-3 built in 1945. Note that DC-3 production in 1945 was sidelined for production of military C-47 type(s).
A very substantial proportion of DC3s were originally built as C47s and sold into civillian service after the war.
There are differences including fuel capacity, cargo doors and engine types.
The Ancient Geek is offline  
Old 10th Mar 2019, 06:59
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Denver
Posts: 876
Aviation Herald says they apparently had time to declare an emergency and then "lost height." Nothing specific yet as to the exact problem. Also reports "DC-3" which yes, can also mean converted C-47.

Crash: [email protected] Colombia DC3 near Villavicencio on Mar 9th 2019, lost height on approach
pattern_is_full is offline  
Old 10th Mar 2019, 08:33
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Age: 49
Posts: 1,222
Did they operate as vintage aircrafts or actually ran a scheduled service ?
atakacs is offline  
Old 10th Mar 2019, 09:47
  #13 (permalink)  
Drain Bamaged
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Earth
Age: 51
Posts: 391
Originally Posted by atakacs View Post
Did they operate as vintage aircrafts or actually ran a scheduled service ?

All DC3/C-47 left flying in Colombia are working aircrafts.
Being cargo, pax or combi (mainly combi)
Basler (turbine Dak) are either with their Police or Air Force.


ehwatezedoing is offline  
Old 10th Mar 2019, 16:14
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Spain
Age: 64
Posts: 79
How can a flying AC "plunge" into ground WITHOUT a trace at its back???
Seems like it "perched" like a pelicano...
guadaMB is offline  
Old 10th Mar 2019, 17:30
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Not far from a big Lake
Age: 76
Posts: 1,456
How can a flying AC "plunge" into ground WITHOUT a trace at its back???
Seems like it "perched" like a pelicano
Referencing Airbubba's crash site picture:
Looks like he landed on the road from right to left and either deliberately or inadvertently ground looped 90 degrees to the right.
The vegetation on the "left" side of the road is looking rather beaten up with a short fire trail leading up to the final resting spot of the aircraft.
Could also be that the short fire trail in the direction of probable approach resulted from burning fuel flowing down an irrigation ditch.

Perhaps a bigger tree further back on the road tore open a wing tank and started the fire which eventually engulfed the aircraft
Machinbird is offline  
Old 10th Mar 2019, 17:44
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Spain
Age: 64
Posts: 79
I'm sorry but I do not see any trace of THAT plane landing on THAT road.
More to it, the terrain on which the tail of the AC rests is about 1 to 1,5 metres UP the level of the mentioned road.
And between the charred "irrigation ditch" and the road, are many young (and intact) trees.
All the surrounding palm plantation is "untouched"...
guadaMB is offline  
Old 10th Mar 2019, 18:17
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Trinidad And Tobago
Age: 48
Posts: 16
Looks as if it just dropped on that spot,probably fell flat in a horizontal spin at a relatively low speed and maybe already on fire..
Raptor Systems TT is offline  
Old 10th Mar 2019, 19:25
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Spain
Age: 64
Posts: 79
Yep...
Like a fly.
Dropped vertically and put her six legs on ground.
Physics don't help on that theory...
guadaMB is offline  
Old 10th Mar 2019, 20:28
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Not far from a big Lake
Age: 76
Posts: 1,456
SKYHOOK-NOT LIKELY

For the skyhook theory folks, how high does a DC-3 wing sit during a wheel landing? Might that account for the smaller trees mostly remaining to the right on the crash scene photo while immediately to the left of the crash scene, the trees are much larger?
This is a tail dragger aircraft accident after all. I hope you understand the implications.

Why put a twin engine transport down on a road in the first place? One of the best reasons in this case would be an uncontrollable engine fire. Did they announce the nature of their emergency? It should fly OK on one engine once solidly airborne.
Machinbird is offline  
Old 10th Mar 2019, 20:33
  #20 (permalink)  
Drain Bamaged
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Earth
Age: 51
Posts: 391
Originally Posted by guadaMB View Post
Yep...
Like a fly.
Dropped vertically and put her six legs on ground.
Physics don't help on that theory...
Look at this video to give you an idea at what Raptor System TT is referring.
Just imagine the ground way much closer.
ehwatezedoing is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.