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Old 4th Mar 2019, 21:54
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At 0:31 something flies off the truck (perhaps whatever they used to protect truck bed from the asphalt)

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Old 4th Mar 2019, 22:30
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We were taking off from Potosi (15500 feet asl) when the pilot suddenly swore and lifted as a man and burro wandered onto the runway in front of us...
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 08:06
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
No, the fact that you can't recognise a Gulfstream doesn't strengthen the case for it being CGI.
So not a RusAir (CGI) Tupolev at all. Thought so. (Sorry,could not resist )
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 08:21
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Runway was notamed at the time with displaced threshold of 1000m.

Not old. This just happened and the notam is from 2019 as well.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 08:30
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Originally Posted by pilotguy1222 View Post
Not old. This just happened and the notam is from 2019 as well.
If you mean "just" in the sense of "recent", how do you account for DINAC's statement that it occurred 4-5 years ago, and that one of those workers has been retired for 3 years?


Are they lying?
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 11:57
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Camera?

Just ask yourselves WHY A.N.Other (workman no4??) would be getting his smartphone camera out to film his mates mundanely laying tarmac just at the precise moment the aircraft comes in to land?
Not a single reaction from the tarmaccing crew either.
Fake in my book.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 12:29
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I'm confused.

All this stuff about the flag not fluttering when it should. Or was it the other way round?

No, that was the fake Moon landings - I keep getting my conspiracies mixed up.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 12:34
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
I'm confused.

All this stuff about the flag not fluttering when it should. Or was it the other way round?

No, that was the fake Moon landings - I keep getting my conspiracies mixed up.
Me too. And Elvis works down our Chip Shop. Honest.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 12:56
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If it were fake, I'd nominate the video for the "Special Effects" Academy Award. Bet this was not their first close encounter, so this time they recorded it
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Just ask yourselves WHY A.N.Other (workman no4??) would be getting his smartphone camera out to film his mates mundanely laying tarmac just at the precise moment the aircraft comes in to land?
Not a single reaction from the tarmaccing crew either.
Fake in my book.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 13:29
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sixchannel, you could say the same for many accidents that have been filmed just at the appropriate moment! My take is that the person filming was not intending to film what eventually occurred but simply an aircraft landing. The filming starts when the aircraft is still quite some way out. If it was a simple CGI spoof there would have been no need to start the sequence so soon. As for the workmens' reactions, I think they were caught up in a WTF moment probably not believing what they were seeing. South Americans are not known for being expeditious in their movements either! Again, if a CGI spoof, there was no need to continue the sequence and the landing. As for the flag, there's obviously quite a stiff wind blowing down the runway and the engines will be close to or at idle. I think the wind would win it! I have always identified CGI when I've seen it and if this is CGI then I can only say that it is of the very highest quality, even better than Hollywood can manage.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 14:05
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Nah, I think he started filming when he saw the AC on final. Think about it, the aircraft crosses the threshold 26 seconds into this video. So when the filming started it would have been at 200-300 feet finals. You might not see the aircraft initially due to the resolution of this video, but if you were standing on that runway you would have been visual with the aircraft long before the filming started.

Also, watch closely, the cameraman is not filming his mates, he's pointing his camera towards the approach area of the runway, he's actually trying to capture the approaching aircraft.
Notice how one of the workers had the presence of mind to cover his ears..
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 14:08
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If it were fake, I'd nominate the video for the "Special Effects" Academy Award.
Same here. This is South America, guys, not LHR. Only question mark seems to be is this a new or old video...
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 15:25
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Nah, I think he started filming when he saw the AC on final.
Which is what I said!
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 18:38
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Can't believe that anyone considers this clip even vaguely real.

The finish on the aircraft is all wrong - looks like a 1/2 minute job with kiddies watercolour.
The underside detail of the aircraft is overly dark to save rendering effort.
The windows...don't look much like windows.
Is the pilot blind - didn't notice a 4x4 & bunch of hi-vizer in the way.
Are the tarmac crew blind - didn't notice a biz jet running them down.
Does the flag, which the AC landing gear passes a few feet away from exist in a place where physics don't apply.
Why did the photographer wait so long to turn around & catch the roll - bingo, the CGI geek couldn't be bothered with the effort of rendering, especially for the reversers.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 19:56
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Originally Posted by Thrust Augmentation View Post
Can't believe that anyone considers this clip even vaguely real.

The finish on the aircraft is all wrong - looks like a 1/2 minute job with kiddies watercolour.
The underside detail of the aircraft is overly dark to save rendering effort.
The windows...don't look much like windows.
Is the pilot blind - didn't notice a 4x4 & bunch of hi-vizer in the way.
Are the tarmac crew blind - didn't notice a biz jet running them down.
Does the flag, which the AC landing gear passes a few feet away from exist in a place where physics don't apply.
Why did the photographer wait so long to turn around & catch the roll - bingo, the CGI geek couldn't be bothered with the effort of rendering, especially for the reversers.
We are talking about a video taken from a cell phone ffs,
Not IMAX!

And crew noticed, they bailed out of the way.
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 20:02
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango View Post
Which is what I said!
Sorry, misread the start of your post, then we agree!
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 20:15
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Originally Posted by ehwatezedoing View Post
We are talking about a video taken from a cell phone ffs, Not IMAX!
No FFS.... 4x4 looks real, AC looks like a cartoon - moving or not.

All I can see is a cartoon AC in a video clip & as you would expect the cartoon content has no effect on the boys from the blackstuff or their flag....

Come to think of it I've seen more realistic AC's in cartoons.



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Old 5th Mar 2019, 21:58
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Can't believe that anyone considers this clip even vaguely real.
Can't believe that anyone considers this clip even vaguely fake!

The aircraft is an executive jet. With some exceptions executive jets have pretty drab and boring corporate colour schemes. If this was a CGI fake it would have had much more impact to use an airliner. Finally, at the end of the clip the workers begin to return to where they were working. Now since we all seem to agree that they are real, what did they move away for in the first place?
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 22:10
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FR24 geeks...here's a nice homework to do for the next couple of days
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Old 5th Mar 2019, 22:14
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BTW, Paraguays CAA has just official tweeted:
t*itter.com/dinacpy/status/1102263175083380736
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