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I would think that the 'punishment' with the most impact would be to add them permanently to the 'NO FLY' list. These days that would be a significant punishment.
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However I suspect someone would find that would go agasint their human rights. I am all for human rights, but long as Thier life is not endangered by banning them from somewhere then I don't see any controversy. No one could argue their life would be at risk from being banned from using a UK airport.
For me, the biggest disappointment of this out come was that 3 of the culprits had previously received suspended sentences for, I think, offences committed at Heathrow. Those 3 should have gone away as they had proved that they can scoff at suspended sentences. Perhaps their lenient treatment may send a message to all the others that they need not worry about the suspended sentence and may encourage them to chance their arms again in a future breach.
They weren't.
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Simple solution
It seems fairly obvious to me, airlines do not have to carry anyone they dont want to, a certain judge might find that his next holiday is a tad more difficult than his last....... 😁😁😁
I'd at least hope it was grounds for them all to be banned from entering any UK airport or being within 500 meters of one for a considerable amount of time. That ban would also apply to UK airlines.
However I suspect someone would find that would go agasint their human rights. I am all for human rights, but long as Thier life is not endangered by banning them from somewhere then I don't see any controversy. No one could argue their life would be at risk from being banned from using a UK airport.
However I suspect someone would find that would go agasint their human rights. I am all for human rights, but long as Thier life is not endangered by banning them from somewhere then I don't see any controversy. No one could argue their life would be at risk from being banned from using a UK airport.
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Or maybe the UK justice system has signaled that allowing peaceful public protest against a contentious legal process is a more important moral and social principle than protecting the commercial rights of airlines, airport operators and passengers. Perhaps the 'signal' is that although there will be legal sanction, it will not be so severe as to completely discourage such protest in future.
This is a principle that has been established in court in the past, against road protestors, among others.
This is a principle that has been established in court in the past, against road protestors, among others.
Of course it was a peaceful protest
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The UK may be an island but banning someone from our airports wouldn't prevent them from traveling. We have trains and ferries to other countries. They would be more than welcome to use those to get to another airport If they had to fly.
As far as I am aware there is no human right that says everyone must have access to airports and airlines.
I'm not suggesting we strip them of their home or force feed them through a tube, just ban them from being anywhere near an airport in this country as they have shown they have no regard for the safety or security of them.
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Thats clearly sloblock, as Stephen Fry would say... go and have a read what human rights are. Its an example of a melting and deteriorating society (all over Europe btw) that we witness here. Like the old Roman empire days, when the whole thing rotted from the inside out. There are ways of protesting rightful and breaking and entering and disrupting air traffic is NOT. Now why a court does not understand this is left to the imagination. To my mind that has to do with the rotting....
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However I suspect someone would find that would go agasint their human rights. I am all for human rights,
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Nobody here is saying this was a peaceful protest. Nobody here said they should not have gone to court. Nobody here said their actions weren't careless or potentially dangerous.
FACT: they got sentenced by a judge to 12 month in prison, albeit with a suspended sentence. They are convicted criminals.
Ah but yes I forgot: facts, or expert opinions, don't matter in the Brexit era...
FACT: they got sentenced by a judge to 12 month in prison, albeit with a suspended sentence. They are convicted criminals.
Ah but yes I forgot: facts, or expert opinions, don't matter in the Brexit era...
Nobody here is saying this was a peaceful protest. Nobody here said they should not have gone to court. Nobody here said their actions weren't careless or potentially dangerous.
FACT: they got sentenced by a judge to 12 month in prison, albeit with a suspended sentence. They are convicted criminals.
FACT: they got sentenced by a judge to 12 month in prison, albeit with a suspended sentence. They are convicted criminals.
It’s a difficult one to get right, although for public order/nuisance offences making the punishment fit the crime often feels right. Sentence: mend the hole in the fence, two weeks sweeping FOD off the taxiways and a week on the lost luggage desk...
If it had been the latter, then charges of endangering life would be justified, and nobody would be getting a suspended sentence.
I don't know about you but where I work the people who are in favor of draconian sentences for protesters are also the people who rave about "health & safety gone mad" and " Fascism" when they 're caught breaking the speed limit etc
Er, no it doesn't. The Titan 767 was parked overnight, empty, when it was immobilised by the protestors, not taxying out onto a runway.
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This is the problem with the Lunatic Left and tree hugging Human Rights lawyers. A human rights lawyer should not be arguing a Criminal Prosecution.
And F&)#ing Judges. "had to balance their right to protest..." But after reading some of the sympatheic/pathetic responses on here, excusing their actions as a public nuisance, it is no wonder they got off.
They have the right to protest.
They don't have the right to break into a secure and/or restricted area to do so.
They have the right to break anything!
They don't have the right to detain anyone or anything.
They don't have the right to force my aircraft to divert.
They have the right to impose the inconvenience on any of the passengers on my flight that I am forced to divert.
As long as the world keeps making excuses for the illegal activities for these types of Social Terrorists then their behaviour will continue.
And F&)#ing Judges. "had to balance their right to protest..." But after reading some of the sympatheic/pathetic responses on here, excusing their actions as a public nuisance, it is no wonder they got off.
They have the right to protest.
They don't have the right to break into a secure and/or restricted area to do so.
They have the right to break anything!
They don't have the right to detain anyone or anything.
They don't have the right to force my aircraft to divert.
They have the right to impose the inconvenience on any of the passengers on my flight that I am forced to divert.
As long as the world keeps making excuses for the illegal activities for these types of Social Terrorists then their behaviour will continue.
