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A380 Landing Short on Pax Video?

Old 29th Jan 2019, 18:18
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It is also quite possible that the runway had a displaced threshold, and the pilot landed on good runway surface, not in an overrun.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 18:58
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I like the "Thank you for flying Ethiad Airways, how did we do?" at the end of the recording
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 19:58
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It appears normal . Move on !
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 21:59
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Originally Posted by Morane
the video clearly shows the name of the airline that can not be named
See post #9.
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Old 29th Jan 2019, 22:16
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Originally Posted by Doors to Automatic
There was a very similar video posted ten years ago:

https://youtu.be/lOmGd4qpsyk

Touchdown at exactly the same point but on this one you can see the spot of the real touchdown when the spoliers deploy.
Let me clarify a few things having previously flown the thing. That Sydney Emirates one is live video and that’s a undershoot. Just be thankful it wasn’t the other end. Spoilers don’t deploy at the speed of the 737 or A320, initial deployment is only 5 degree/sec.

I am not overly convinced the original discussion video is delayed either (AUH 31L). Whilst it’s very hard to see, I’m seeing handling characteristics of landing short.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 01:49
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One way of measuring the time delay is to simultaneously video and observe the beginning of push back or the arrival at the gate. Do this by Videoing the seat back display but observe the pushback through the window, when pushback starts shout now! so your voice will be recorded. Replay to examine the time delay between your voice and when the onscreen display reveals begining of pushback. Also works for the end of flight.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 02:57
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Originally Posted by Tangoalpha
Ignoring the initial 'duck' of the camera that gives what I suspect the illusion of an early touchdown it looks like the mains contacted probably not far off from the first of the TDZ lines.
Agree. Much ado about nothing.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 03:05
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Originally Posted by PoppaJo

Whilst it’s very hard to see, I’m seeing handling characteristics of landing short.
For the benefit of the rest of us here, what exactly are you seeing?
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 03:30
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Looked like a normal landing to me, just a delay on the video feed.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 08:08
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Why would there be a delay on the video feed?
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 08:29
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Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem
Why would there be a delay on the video feed?
Have you ever flown an Airbus?
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 08:54
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No, but I know at what speed electrons move, and they don’t take 5 seconds from camera to screen.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 09:18
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Haven't we been here before?

From 2010:

PPRuNe: Emirates 380 landing from tail camera
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 15:10
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172 Driver post 23; Its ok you misspelt the airline name so they can't touch you....
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 15:17
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Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem
No, but I know at what speed electrons move, and they don’t take 5 seconds from camera to screen.
I'm not exactly sure that's the reason for the latency in rendering the video.
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Old 30th Jan 2019, 23:33
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I stand corrected. There is definitely NO time delay.

Take a look at this one.......

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Old 31st Jan 2019, 00:21
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Is it possible they delay due to what happened to the American DC-10 in Chicago? If I remember correctly amounts awarded were higher because the passengers watched their crash from the front facing television. American removed these immediately after the accident. I'm not aware of anybody using them again until the A380. We should be able to look over the captain's shoulder just like in a taxi and us passengers give advice like are you sure you are taking the fastest route, watch out for the turbulence, etc.
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Old 31st Jan 2019, 01:30
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One day last summer, I sat in seat 50H of an A-330, watching the downward-facing camera as we landed on pristine white concrete, with the the first isolated tire marks just coming into view at the top of the screen. I heard a few gasps, which seemed to be from passengers watching the same view I was.

I didn't think about video delay at the time, but that's the obvious explanation. (I remember that the touchdown came just as I was thinking that we were a few seconds from landing -- and I guess on the video, we were.)
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Old 31st Jan 2019, 04:20
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The landing at Sydney on 16R was definitely short. The tire marks on the piano keys were there for months after. Sitting at the hold point watching landings in a gusty quartering tailwind or southerly buster on 16R can be entertaining. But no laughing. There but for the grace of God go I.........
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Old 31st Jan 2019, 04:29
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Delay as an explanation for this video? I call bull. Videos of the view from the tail camera of a landing A380 are available all over the internet. Some show the view from the tail camera on a video screen, a pan to the window to see outside and then a pan back to the video screen. The two views, inside and outside, are synchronised. Try this one for example.


I agree with Doors to Automatic. There is no delay.
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