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[India Four Two]

Interesting article on CBC News:

The agency declined CBC's request for an interview and provided an emailed response instead Tuesday afternoon, saying the Goose Bay airport is designated "an authorized AOE/15," which allows for the clearance and refuelling of scheduled air traffic "not exceeding 15 passengers and crew."

Decision rests with the pilot: CBSA

CBC asked the agency whether that means Goose Bay Airport doesn't have the capacity to handle unscheduled flights with more than 15 people aboard, and if so, what has changed since nearly 200 people on a diverted United Airlines flight in June 2015 were allowed to get off.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfo...cbsa-1.4990928

[Radgirl]

Reports are that the passenger in question walked out the door and down the stairs to his medical escort.

(the captain)... had to act on the information given to him ....... by any qualified medical professional on board.

Exactly. 25 years after we started training CC in use of defibrillators, and the Phoenix medical support service became operational, it is staggering we allow 'doctors' of unknown provenance, who have no aviation knowledge, no knowledge of the effect of decompression, and no information on the medical facilities at the destination or diversion to make decisions. While I accept that a doctor my have an input if a patient has a cardiac arrest, we should be circumspect about any volunteer's qualifications and look to bolster the training of CC especially on long haul. Some years ago a meeting suggested a subset of CC could receive additional medical training which would not only be cost effective but good for customer satisfaction in this case

[RatherBeFlying]

CBSA and the airport are sleeping at the switch.

Is it that difficult to develop a contingency plan to take the pax and crew to a holding area and find a delegated officer, likely RCMP, to supervise

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[RevMan2]

Happens in the best of families. Delayed out OF AKL to LAX, arriving at 03:00 PST. We waited until 06:00, the time Customs and Immigration clocked on.... (Flight attendant told me of arriving just after the end of the “innernational” airport’s late shift. Andwaiting 7hours untilopening time..

[pilot9250]

Originally Posted by Radgirl

Exactly. 25 years after we started training CC in use of defibrillators, and the Phoenix medical support service became operational, it is staggering we allow 'doctors' of unknown provenance, who have no aviation knowledge, no knowledge of the effect of decompression, and no information on the medical facilities at the destination or diversion to make decisions. While I accept that a doctor my have an input if a patient has a cardiac arrest, we should be circumspect about any volunteer's qualifications and look to bolster the training of CC especially on long haul. Some years ago a meeting suggested a subset of CC could receive additional medical training which would not only be cost effective but good for customer satisfaction in this case

You appear to be suggesting select CC be given a little bit of training in something complex that they will never practise professionally, and have confidence to overrule or ignore PAX presenting medical credentials.

This doesn't seem very well advised, at least to me.

I expect the select CC would per force err on the side of caution and make it less likely to avoid a diversion.

Put me as CC in that position and I know I would.

[Midland63]

Ref. frozen door, I remember watching a TV series in the mid 90s about the original development of the 777 and one of the tests featured was whether the doors would open in some very icy looking place. Anyone else remember this series?