PIA - fake pilots and cabin crew
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PIA - fake pilots and cabin crew
It seems some 'crew members' have been rumbled with their qualifications. Pilots yes but do canin crew really need a degree? Maybe in common sense yes.
Higher Secondary School Certificate - awarded by examination.
OK, OK, it's a "diploma" not a "degree" - but Pakistan is an "education-proud" culture, and we are talking about a translation (mental or written) from Urdu to English.
What on earth is "anal retentive?" Adjective: Excessively orderly and fussy. A person who pays such attention to detail that it becomes an obsession and may be an annoyance to others.
OK, OK, it's a "diploma" not a "degree" - but Pakistan is an "education-proud" culture, and we are talking about a translation (mental or written) from Urdu to English.
What on earth is "anal retentive?" Adjective: Excessively orderly and fussy. A person who pays such attention to detail that it becomes an obsession and may be an annoyance to others.
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As in anyone who has difficulty figuring out that "canin crew" does not refer to support dogs for the pilots.
Well, I don't know much, but as a professor of electronics engineering technology (retired), I do know that I have seen more than my share of supposed electronics graduates from that part of the world that would have filled the lab with the smell of burning flesh if I hadn't stopped them turning on the soldering iron while they held the wrong end!
Airlines in the USA usually require a college degree for pilots, students are getting into huge debts to obtain qualifications which are virtually worthless when it comes to getting a job where as a decent technical qualification would cost less, have them employed sooner and earning more money.
Some third world countries degrees wouldn't be at the same level as a western high school certificate. In the Philippines, having been to college and failed still makes you college level when it comes to employment.
Some third world countries degrees wouldn't be at the same level as a western high school certificate. In the Philippines, having been to college and failed still makes you college level when it comes to employment.
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To lie about the first level of education - the High School Certificate/Diploma/Degree or whatever else it is called, calls into question every other qualification you have. If you have failed and lied to say you passed that is one thing, but to have obtained a fake qualification is fraudulent. No other piece of paper you hold can be trusted to be true.
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To lie about the first level of education - the High School Certificate/Diploma/Degree or whatever else it is called, calls into question every other qualification you have. If you have failed and lied to say you passed that is one thing, but to have obtained a fake qualification is fraudulent. No other piece of paper you hold can be trusted to be true.
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It would be a shame if everything they did since high school was legitimate and to lose their careers over a fraud committed when they were but children. It's just that it brings into question everything they have done since, legitimate or not.
Pakistan’s next door neighbour India, has an unfortunate history regarding fake licenses with students receiving substantial payment discounts for logbook hours which whilst not actually flown will still be verified by the school if checked. A newly qualified CPL holder might have 200hrs logged but have only spent less than 100 in the air.
This is much easier to detect as it will soon manifest itself during further training, or out on the line when incidents start occurring.
This is much easier to detect as it will soon manifest itself during further training, or out on the line when incidents start occurring.
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This is much easier to detect as it will soon manifest itself during further training, or out on the line when incidents start occurring.
When I was in the RAF recruiting world we had a long list of 'equivalents' when overseas qualifications were produced. I seem to remember that an Indian BSc (failed) was equivalent to five 'O' levels!
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It the same in the I.T world too.
I know of someone who left school at 16 with no qualifications /certificates and spent 35 years in the IT industry from programmer upwards.
He gained no paper qualifications for the job but was well respected for the work he did.
Of course he was not allowed to risk passengers lives.
Airlines in the USA usually require a college degree for pilots, students are getting into huge debts to obtain qualifications which are virtually worthless when it comes to getting a job where as a decent technical qualification would cost less, have them employed sooner and earning more money.
Some people feel this will change in the near future; I have no idea. I've seen Delta declare unequivocally that they'll "never" drop the requirement for a 4-year college degree...even if it's a degree in Sanskrit. (yep, flew with an FO who had such a degree.)
I have 15K+ hours, Type rated on B737, B757, B767, A319 and G-V, G-550. Also check airman on the 737 and Gulfstreams. Applied for a job with a company which operated all those types. No interview even though I had a letter of recommendation. Reason? I do not have a degree. So a degree in basket weaving is better than half a century of accident free flying?
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I’ve survived not having a degree. It’s merely a measure of your “leaning ability” but there are other yardsticks which can be used. Such as IQ testing. Much as I hate the HR bollox it could be used if one has no degree or “college education”, whatever that is.... I think having passed ATPL exams is also an indicator. Certainly in Europe it used to be the case prior to EASA that the ATPL was equivalent to a first degree (EASA exams are easier) Or, as I’ve been told, you can just buy a degree off t’interweb.