767 300 diverts to Shemya-Alaska for Engine Issue
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767 300 diverts to Shemya-Alaska for Engine Issue
Delta flight from Beijing to Seattle lands on Alaskan island due to ‘potential engine issue’
Originally published December 24, 2018 at 11:22 am Updated December 24, 2018 at 1:02 pm
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...media-reports/
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The carrier sent another aircraft to pick up the 194 passengers. The flight back to Seattle is scheduled to land at about 9 p.m.
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A commercial passenger flight by Delta Airlines flying from Beijing to Seattle landed on a remote Alaskan island out of caution after notification of a potential engine issue, according to the airline.The carrier sent another aircraft to pick up the 194 passengers, Delta spokeswoman Savannah Huddleston said in an emailed statement.The diverted plane, flight DL 128, is a Boeing 767-300ER. The plane on the way to pick up the passengers is flight DL 9950 and is scheduled to land at about 1:15 p.m. Seattle time, according to data from FlightAware, a flight-tracking website.Asia FieldsSeattle Times staff reporter
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That's really a lovely place.
Eareckson Air Station on Shemya Island:
https://goo.gl/maps/FkMq21BZHFm
Alaskan Island does not do it justice. More like the middle of absolutely nowhere.
Eareckson Air Station on Shemya Island:
https://goo.gl/maps/FkMq21BZHFm
Alaskan Island does not do it justice. More like the middle of absolutely nowhere.
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Wikipedia article on the air station:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eareckson_Air_Station
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eareckson_Air_Station
I keep thinking of a couple hundred people - boarding in Beijing from a heated loading bridge (with OAT around freezing), planning to exit via a heated loading bridge in Seattle (with an OAT around freezing), suddenly finding they have to exit the airplane on an outdoor stairway with an OAT around -40.
Brrrrrr
Brrrrrr
I keep thinking of a couple hundred people - boarding in Beijing from a heated loading bridge (with OAT around freezing), planning to exit via a heated loading bridge in Seattle (with an OAT around freezing), suddenly finding they have to exit the airplane on an outdoor stairway with an OAT around -40.
Brrrrrr
Brrrrrr
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The average December temperatures in Shemya are 2 degrees high and -2 degrees low. The record December low was -14, all temps Celsius. Its still a good distance from mainland Siberia so the temps are moderated by the surrounding seawater. Sitting here at -14 it might be a welcome reprieve.
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Yes, and Cobra Ball RC-135S 62-4128 from Offutt is in theater as we speak to monitor an upcoming test. By tradition the starboard wing and engines of the RC are painted black on the Cobra Ball.
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A Cathay Pacific 777 also diverted to Eareckson about three years ago after smoke appeared in the cockpit. I suppose there's not much that can be done with a plane that has 200-300 pax on board at a place like that other than keep them there until a relief craft arrives. But I guess at times like that it's good that the place is there.
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A Cathay Pacific 777 also diverted to Eareckson about three years ago after smoke appeared in the cockpit. I suppose there's not much that can be done with a plane that has 200-300 pax on board at a place like that other than keep them there until a relief craft arrives. But I guess at times like that it's good that the place is there.
Actually, no. For an etops enroute airport to be “adequate” you do not even need fuel at the airfield.(theoretically)
It is one of the trick questions presented to us during command training.
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I suppose you know the history of Shemya, as it relates to the beginning of airline service to the "Orient" - by what was then called Northwest Orient Airlines. They leased the entire island for use as a maintenance, staging and refueling point, and using it as an ETOPS alternate is quite common in today's trans-Pacific operations.
Reading the article, it sounds as though Delta *may* have left those poor people on the airplane for 12 hours. Whether or not they did, the airline is *supposed* to have all logistics arranged in advance for just such a diversion - including de-planing, food, lodging, etc.
I flew several trips with a guy who had once had to divert to Cold Bay, population ~80 - at least at the time of year of their diversion. They all stayed on the island ~24 hours, with the passengers "accommodated" (cough!) in a gymnasium or similar. I once flew over the Aleutians on a quite rare clear, moonlit night, and those mountain peaks stick up awfully close to the various diversion airports. Sure glad it wasn't me!
Reading the article, it sounds as though Delta *may* have left those poor people on the airplane for 12 hours. Whether or not they did, the airline is *supposed* to have all logistics arranged in advance for just such a diversion - including de-planing, food, lodging, etc.
I flew several trips with a guy who had once had to divert to Cold Bay, population ~80 - at least at the time of year of their diversion. They all stayed on the island ~24 hours, with the passengers "accommodated" (cough!) in a gymnasium or similar. I once flew over the Aleutians on a quite rare clear, moonlit night, and those mountain peaks stick up awfully close to the various diversion airports. Sure glad it wasn't me!
Air regulations (ETOPS etal.) typically provide for air-safety while aboard an airplane. They can't foresee living accommodations on the ground or the presence of unwelcoming citizenry
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That's basically the same claim the Secret Service makes when insisting on a 4-engine airplane for Air Force One for international flights.
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Shemya differs from most Aleutian Islands in that it is not mountainous. Its a plateau about 30 meters above sea level. Temperatures moderated by the ocean but it is in the Aleutians so I assume ice fog quite often this time of year. No 5 star hotels but could be worse alternate sites. Leaving the poor people on the plane for 12 hours - what is the longest passenger flight today? I believe it is around 18 hours. I've been forced to leave planes delayed the weather and wished I was still in my seat watching movies rather than lying on a concrete floor. I know a lot of others on those flights didn't feel the same way but its all in the attitude you take.
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How does that work? The 757 will need to stop for refueling. Did the 747 also stop along the way to maintain proximity to the back-up? (Yes, I know that the 747 does have aerial refueling, but AFAIK, it has never been used while a President is onboard).