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Old 7th Nov 2018, 10:08
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B744F off the runway in YHZ

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...-747-1.4895103

Apparently its N908AR of Skylease Cargo, Great news no one is injured but the aircraft is clearly dead.

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Try this:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...-747-1.4895103
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Some clear photos here.
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Short vid of final resting place here:

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...but the aircraft is clearly dead.
Yep, clearly. It's back is broken, just behind the wings. It has a date with the wrecking ball and shredder.
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Heheh! Should be cheap lobster in Toronto this weekend! There's always a silver lining in these things.
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Take off or landing?
This may also break the back of the company, they are running on fumes financially.
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Originally Posted by TowerDog
Take off or landing?
This may also break the back of the company, they are running on fumes financially.
Landing.

And yes, it probably ends the company as well...
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Landed on rnwy 14.
2347 meters long.

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Originally Posted by SigWit
Landing.

And yes, it probably ends the company as well...
Sad end to a Queen and even sadder for it spell the end of the whole airline. It must focus the mind somewhat if you’re flying for a carrier with only a couple of aircraft that even a minor prang rendering the aircraft U/S for a period of time might be enough to put the whole company under.
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Thats why you have insurance.
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Sad end to a Queen and even sadder for it spell the end of the whole airline. It must focus the mind somewhat if you’re flying for a carrier with only a couple of aircraft that even a minor prang rendering the aircraft U/S for a period of time might be enough to put the whole company under.
They have already been under: Tradeiwnds Airlines went Tango Uniform in 2008 with all pilots furloughed.
Then from the ashes rose SkyLease 1 and only pilots who were not “Troublemakers” were recalled.
That would include those who were active in organization a union, including Yours Truly.
SkyLease have been struggling lately with pilot’s pay checks been missing in action or a few weeks late, as well as problems paying for fuel, cash only in some instances.
This incidence were unfortunate, but they all are.
Tailwind Landing.....What else, heavy rain, hydro planning, lost all brakes and all reverse, not on speed?
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View from the air...

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A couple of recent pics I took of the aircraft departing YHZ in October.





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Anyone know why they chose the short runway at Halifax?
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why is it being reported as a "Chinese SkyLease Cargo 747", when it has an "N" Registration ? Are Skylease chinese owned ?
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Originally Posted by TylerMonkey
Landed on rnwy 14.
2347 meters long.
Short and worth paying good attention on a good day even if light ..... never mind with a good tailwind. 6000 and a bit feet after the touchdown zone !
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ATC transcript and comments from JACDEC.com :

GG 4854: „Halifax Tower, ay.. good evening SkyCube 4854 heavy, for the ILS 14.“

Tower: „SkyCube 4854 heavy, Halifax Tower Good evening runway 14, wind 260 at 15 (knots), altimeter 2967 information Tango, number one.“

GG 4854: „Roger that, we have it..“



Tower: „SkyCube 4854, tailwind now 280 at 16 confirm gusting 21, confirm runway 14 still acceptable ?“

GG 4854: „Confirm..ah, still for 14.“

Tower: „SkyCube 4854 heavy, tower roger, wind 260 at 16 gusting 21 cleared to land on 14.“

GG 4854: „Cleared to land..ah.. affir..clear to land on 14, SkyCube 4854 heavy“

Tower: „Roger.“



Tower: „SkyCube 4854 do you read ?“

GG 4854: „Halifax Tower, SkyCube 5854 is off the runway. Requesting full emergency assistance.“

Tower: „SkyCube 4854 Roger, emergency has been activated.“

At about 04:40L, about 30 minutes before the accident landing, Cargojet B757F (CJT626) landed on runway 14.
At about 04:50L, about 25 minutes before the accident landing, Morningstar (FDX) B757F (MAL8062) landed on runway 23.
At about 04:52L, about 23 minutes before the accident landing, a Learjet 35A landed on runway 23.


2018-11-07 Sky Lease Cargo B747-400F overrun at Halifax Airport » JACDEC

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Old 7th Nov 2018, 16:57
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Is there a good reason for selecting runway 14 ?.
Do both runways have, for example, a working ILS ?
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Runway 14 and 23 have an ILS. Runway 23 however has been notamed u/s due construction. Ceiling and vis seemed okay for a NPA if they wanted to land into wind (if they had GPS). Without GPS there is no approach onto 32, only place I have circled in a transport category jet aircraft close to minimums.
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