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B744F off the runway in YHZ

Old 12th Nov 2018, 05:17
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Guess the ILS will be out of service a bit longer on 23, they took out (part) of the approach lights.
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Old 12th Nov 2018, 05:24
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Ex-Singapore Cargo (9V-SFF). Had many happy hours in that when it was fairly new. I know it is only a machine, supposedly with no sole, but what a way to treat a Lady. Always sad to see them sticking out of the mud like that. If I may venture a tiny criticism, to land on a strip of that length with that sort of tailwind is very unwise.
I remember one of it's sisters having a winglet 'removed' in SFO by a tail-stand being towed by a tractor. Its rego was non other than 9V-SFO. The 'Queen' deserves better.

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Old 12th Nov 2018, 17:27
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Originally Posted by By George View Post
Ex-Singapore Cargo (9V-SFF). Had many happy hours in that when it was fairly new. I know it is only a machine, supposedly with no sole, but what a way to treat a Lady. Always sad to see them sticking out of the mud like that. If I may venture a tiny criticism, to land on a strip of that length with that sort of tailwind is very unwise.
I remember one of it's sisters having a winglet 'removed' in SFO by a tail-stand being towed by a tractor. Its rego was non other than 9V-SFO. The 'Queen' deserves better.
Indeed, the Queens are coming off the flight lines at a greater rate than they're coming off the assembly lines it seems. Sad.
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Old 12th Nov 2018, 20:47
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gigittygigitty whatever ....wise ass

you would do well to wait for the result of the investigation before you condemn anyone or criticize their flying or techniques, you do not know what happened any more than anyone else.
speculation ruins lives and families, leave the guys alone for now, first rule of aviation the pilots, they will be blamed if at all possible by all the agencies possible.....this is enough to cope with, without so called colleagues and fellow pilots condemning them without any evidence.

Did you stop to think for 1 minute if the aircraft systems all functioned properly, did the autobrake work, the gnd spoilers work the brakes work, reverse thrust?????

leave them alone and concentrate and hope that you always make the correct decisions
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Old 12th Nov 2018, 21:12
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Originally Posted by flydog View Post
gigittygigitty whatever ....wise ass

you would do well to wait for the result of the investigation before you condemn anyone or criticize their flying or techniques, you do not know what happened any more than anyone else.
speculation ruins lives and families, leave the guys alone for now, first rule of aviation the pilots, they will be blamed if at all possible by all the agencies possible.....this is enough to cope with, without so called colleagues and fellow pilots condemning them without any evidence.

Did you stop to think for 1 minute if the aircraft systems all functioned properly, did the autobrake work, the gnd spoilers work the brakes work, reverse thrust?????

leave them alone and concentrate and hope that you always make the correct decisions
Regardless of whether it was a malfunction with the jet of some kind, basic airmanship comes in to play here. Did they choose the correct landing runway for the conditions in hand?
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Old 12th Nov 2018, 21:40
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Update: Work has begun to remove the aircraft. TSB has released it and the site to the owners and the airport authority. So far cleaning up the debris and draining tanks.
Antenna array is almost replaced.
























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Old 13th Nov 2018, 07:53
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Australian control towers will always provide the maximum recent tailwind component with a takeoff or landing clearance. It seems to be SOP.

I donít know if they calculate it manually or just read it off a console, but itís very handy.
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 03:45
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Originally Posted by Derfred View Post
Australian control towers will always provide the maximum recent tailwind component with a takeoff or landing clearance. It seems to be SOP.

I donít know if they calculate it manually or just read it off a console, but itís very handy.
Crosswind as well.
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Old 14th Nov 2018, 19:44
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Originally Posted by Mudman View Post
Update: Work has begun to remove the aircraft. TSB has released it and the site to the owners and the airport authority. So far cleaning up the debris and draining tanks.
Antenna array is almost replaced.
Thanks for posting the pics. Question for those of you who know: when an airframe is written off but there are salvageable parts, what happens? Does the insurance company sell it to a salvage company, and they can pull parts that are "good?" Or does it not work that way because of certification requirements. Just curious.
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