Air India Express plane hits Trichy airport compound wall

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by Octane

I don't get it either. The wall looks to be 6 ft tall max, how could the landing gear not take it out? Surely the gear could not be stowed at an altitude of 6 ft?!

Simple geometry.

[short bus]

[Stuart Sutcliffe]

India has many crews who, whilst having paid for their licences, certainly didn't earn them. The corruption within the DGCA has been widely reported.

[Rider320]

From what I heard At lift off the captain's seat got seat moved back from its position resulting in yoke going up and in reflex captain pushed the yoke which pushed the aircraft's nose down, resulting in these unfortunate incident.

[daved123]

Originally Posted by DaveReidUK

Simple geometry.

Not a piiot here, but looking at the pic on BBC report, the belly gash looks to be situated between the L/R MLG, not further aft.
daved123

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by daved123

Not a pilot here, but looking at the pic on BBC report, the belly gash looks to be situated between the L/R MLG, not further aft.
daved123

Reports suggest that it was the belly of the aircraft that hit the localizer antenna, but the question asked was what had impacted the wall, which was the rear fuselage.

[Mad (Flt) Scientist]

Originally Posted by Rider320

From what I heard At lift off the captain's seat got seat moved back from its position resulting in yoke going up and in reflex captain pushed the yoke which pushed the aircraft's nose down, resulting in these unfortunate incident.

I'm not sure how that would be consistent with the crew "not noticing anything wrong". (Not saying that this isn't true, just it's inconsistent with the reported crew "relaxed position" about nothing being amiss.

Originally Posted by DavereidUK

Reports suggest that it was the belly of the aircraft that hit the localizer antenna, but the question asked was what had impacted the wall, which was the rear fuselage.

So the scenario is the aircraft somehow gets upset at rotation (seat movement, whatever) and ends up being far too low and rips out the belly on the antennas, then the crew yanks back and presents the belly to the wall/fence? Except there's photos purporting to show elements of the fence (atop the wall) embedded onto the gear struts. So the gear hit something roundabout then too... I think "they were damned lucky" is about all we can really conclude!

[tonytales]

Definition of an airport - A clear space surrounded by obstacles
How could it pressurize with those gashes?

[short bus]

This is the best view I've found of the wall.

You Tube

[RickNRoll]

Originally Posted by short bus

This is the best view I've found of the wall.

https://youtu.be/t9Ugn0jq_60

that explains a lot. Wheels hit the wall. Gash from the localiser.

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by short bus

This is the best view I've found of the wall.

Good find.

That seems to negate the earlier suggestion that the two holes in the wall were too close together to have been produced by the mains - they appear to be consistent with the 737NG's track (5.72 m).

[Capt Quentin McHale]

tonytales,

By the look of damage from the existing photos on here, it is only superficial damage in and around the wheel wells and keel beam area and the fuselage pressure vessel has not been punctured/ruptured hence no loss of pressurisation (that we know of ???) By the look of the damage on the brick wall, I'd say both gears came into contact with the wall. Soooooo lucky that this was not a disastrous outcome!!!

McHale.

[krismiler]

From what I heard At lift off the captain's seat got seat moved back from its position

Anyone who flew older single engine Cessnas would know all about this.

[4runner]

Originally Posted by krismiler

Anyone who flew older single engine Cessnas would know all about this.

anyone that has ever flown in India will know all about this and lots of other happenings. We don’t hear 3% of the aviation shenanigans that go on in the subcontinent. This will be swept under someone’s desk, tea money will be put in an envelope, head bobbles exchanged and another crisis averted through journalistic dynamicism, lyrical skulduggery, archaic prose and feats of executive needful sabbatical misappropriation of the dutiful duties of his excellency the Vice Chairman Minister of aviation learning knowledge and Aerodrome awareness and reporting. India don’t change, India changes you.

[pattern_is_full]

Can anyone run these numbers? 738, trip length 1590nm/2491km, runway length 2427m/7963 feet, OAT 83F/23C.

[Icarus2001]

How could it pressurize with those gashes?

There is a great deal of aeroplane outside the pressure vessel.

[Herod]

The picture of the wall says either a lot about the strength of Mr Boeing's aircraft or not a lot about the building skills of Indian bricklayers.

[sitigeltfel]

Did the wheels actually strike the wall or did they catch the chain link wire pulling out the supports and the sections of the wall they were embedded into?

[wideman]

Originally Posted by Herod

The picture of the wall says either a lot about the strength of Mr Boeing's aircraft or not a lot about the building skills of Indian bricklayers.

One does not exclude the other.

[73qanda]

Can anyone run these numbers? 738, trip length 1590nm/2491km, runway length 2427m/7963 feet, OAT 83F/23C.

So many variables.
Assuming about 13T of gas, 170pax, nil wind, 26k engines, bleeds on, it would be at 35ft about 100m prior to the end of the runway using an assumed temp of 39 degrees. If they wanted to use full thrust it would be at 35ft about 400m prior to the end of the runway. V2 of about 150.
There are potentially other variables that would make quite a big difference though.