Another A380 Woe?
Sorry to hear you had that experience I42. I flew from Sydney to Singapore in 2008 by 747-400, the return journey 4 days later was by A 380. Only cattle class - the A-380 was streets ahead of the 747-400 in terms of a spacious feeling and quietness. I quite preferred it.
Perhaps it the case that US carrier wouldn't touch European made super jumbo as they would 'lose face' or 'unpatriotic' ? Not sure the US market would save the A380, but the jealousy shown by US when EU show them up with superior aircraft for its type, is pretty obvious.
Perhaps it the case that US carrier wouldn't touch European made super jumbo as they would 'lose face' or 'unpatriotic' ? Not sure the US market would save the A380, but the jealousy shown by US when EU show them up with superior aircraft for its type, is pretty obvious.
It wasn’t just US carriers who didn’t buy the A-380; it was most airlines throughout the world. The US market couldn’t support this aircraft. Ask yourself how many 747’s are flying between US Cities today? Airbus gambled when it built the A-380 and it turned out to be the wrong decision. Nice aircraft, bad economics.
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Perhaps it the case that US carrier wouldn't touch European made super jumbo as they would 'lose face' or 'unpatriotic' ? Not sure the US market would save the A380, but the jealousy shown by US when EU show them up with superior aircraft for its type, is pretty obvious.
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Well, Mr Calder seems to think that BA will be busy buying up all the second hand A380s!
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a8781691.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a8781691.html
Most of the posts that declare a preference for traveling on the A380, seem to be from “Premium SLF”
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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/1...80_break_even/
Perhaps it the case that US carrier wouldn't touch European made super jumbo as they would 'lose face' or 'unpatriotic' ? Not sure the US market would save the A380, but the jealousy shown by US when EU show them up with superior aircraft for its type, is pretty obvious.
Wikipedia lists over 40 B-747-400 operators and only one (NW) is American
The twins give them a lot more flexibility and the economics are better if you can fill the front end
Pity tho' the A380 is by far the most comfortable and quietest aircraft from a SLC view - I always choose it over an A 330/340 or a B777 if there's a choice
And how exactly have the US been "shown up"? It's the A380 which is a commercial failure, while Boeing (who I assume you see as a proxy for the US) have arguably read the market better.
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On a brighter note, EADS chief financial officer Andreas Sperl told a gathering of analysts and investors that Airbus "still expected to sell more than 750 of its new planes over the life of the project". ®
Oh dear! But it's not the first airliner that failed to meet expectations...the biggest and most expensive to date though, and yes even in steerage it is more comfortable than the rest of the lot out there, although the reverse curvature of the fuselage sides downstairs was a bit strange at first
Oh dear! But it's not the first airliner that failed to meet expectations...the biggest and most expensive to date though, and yes even in steerage it is more comfortable than the rest of the lot out there, although the reverse curvature of the fuselage sides downstairs was a bit strange at first
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https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e..._e/ds316_e.htm
European Communities and Certain member States — Measures Affecting Trade in Large Civil Aircraft
Of course the term large civil aircraft ( LCA) was poorly defined - seems it MAY have excluded only the Sopwith camel, Travelair and perhaps the Piper cub and Wright flyer . . .
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Did Airbus miss a trick by not having the A380 cockpit up top and therebye forsaking the possiblility of having a freighter version with an opening nose. They can't really have been taking in the 747's longer framelife and increased resale value as a cargo carrier, and the extended livespans of the high payload older russian cargo planes with this feature. Maybe they got hung up in the topbulging wingcarrying Guppy/Beluga and forgot the advantage of loading most cargo direct from the ground.
Wikipedia lists over 40 B-747-400 operators and only one (NW) is American
Both United and Delta (which merged with NW several years back) have completely phased out the 747 by the end of 2017. It's rather telling that not only were they replaced by big twins - in many cases they weren't even particularly big 'big twins' - many of those routes now being flown by 767, 777-200, and A330s.
So, what are BA going to replace all their ageing 744 fleet with? Wouldn't LH Gatwick with the 380 be a good business proposition? Thinking about slots as well...
In fact replace the 744's with 380's?
In fact replace the 744's with 380's?
