Ryanair pilot strike
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The difficulty is that whatever happens, MOL is going to walk away with more money than you or I could ever imagine.
Personally I couldn't care less if he leaves with an envelope or wheelbarrow full; the only item of interest to me, is seeing the end of the horrendous labour practices employed by Ryanair.
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To quote Well Used!
"incredibly poor middle management unable to voice concerns to high profile directors who are interested in nothing more than headline profits. Pair this with inept crewing practices, poor rostering and the perfect storm brews."
Indeed it is so,and getting worse by the day!
Many companies are becoming "Swiss cheese" factories!...with us pilots spending more and more time preventing the holes lining up!
Its a credit to individuals that safety is still paramount,even when not one management character ever seems to attend the average CRM course!
How about someone starting an "Incredible but true rostering" thread,for example..
We can then post some actual roster lines,without naming companies...We know the press are paying attention,maybe they should be our direct line to the punters,who don't realise what they are sacrificing,for their cut price travel!
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Chief Executive Officer Michael O’Leary says he won’t accept terms that jeopardize the low cost base that’s made his company so dominant in short-haul flying.
The entire business model is flawed. It is flawed for an elementary reason, with pre- condition 1 not being met, pre- condition 2 no longer holds.
Therefore given that operating unit cost is effectively fixed (with the exception of labour) and reduction in asymmetry is ipso facto a risk to business continuance of this model.
Unless RYR abandons their pre - conditions which from all elements of the business are driven, they may well find their business model is a continued but inevitable decline. .
As is well known, they cherry picked the elements they wanted from Southwest's model leaving out the most important part; treating people with respect.
This is precisely why, as detailed eloquently Jody Gittel, despite a lower unit cost for RYR, their productivity was no where close.
Effectively there is nothing new, business that treat employees well, who in turn treat customers well, add far more value to a business that can be input on a spreadsheet.
The chances of Mr O'Leary having a 'Road to Damascus' moment are not good...
The question for the board is when do they begin the hunt for a replacement who gets the real vulnerability of their current structure.
Perhaps it is time to send him to the woodshed?
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RYR strike
You RYR pilots going for strike have the full support of worldwide pilot community!
Stick together and don,t give up till O leary and his management will leave the company!
Stick together and don,t give up till O leary and his management will leave the company!
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I wonder if they will refund the interest they have earned on the monies they never paid out and also the charges some of them have incurred.
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Bounced compensation cheques
Believe that the old principle of "all publicity is good publicity" lives on ...
The other principle of: "stall the process", "BS as much as possible", and "gain time", so that they will give up, is also alive and well ...
The other principle of: "stall the process", "BS as much as possible", and "gain time", so that they will give up, is also alive and well ...
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The subtext of the issue is that despite FR protestations compensation IS payable for cancellations due to strikes. This can only encourage more claims.
EU261 is the elephant in the room, it's the biggest potential cost of any strike action. The longer the dispute drags on, the more pax will realise they can claim. This alone will prevent FR facing down strikes for any length of time.
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But in this instance it's working against Ryanair
In the link provided 4 posts above, one of the persons complaining about the bounced cheque mentions that the bounced cheque cost him 32 Euros (£29) in bank expenses. This will help to create doubt in the people ability to obtain compensation from RYR for their concelled flights. Some will just give up the idea of depositing the cheques provided by RYR, fearing it will end up costing them even more money. Even if it's just a small percentage of people that end up not claiming their compensation, the amount of money saved by RYR will be alot.
Voila ... "bad publicity" produces good results.
Don't ever underestimate the "creative" thinking of MOL and his team ...
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See https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a8309971.html
Has there been any further court test cases? Did Air France and BA have to subsequently pay out where they had previously not. I can't see Ryanair paying compensation if neither Air France nor BA did.
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The situation in April was that more court cases would most likely ensue from the airlines - particularly as the threat of compensation was considered an unfair advantage to unions in disputes.
See https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a8309971.html
Has there been any further court test cases? Did Air France and BA have to subsequently pay out where they had previously not. I can't see Ryanair paying compensation if neither Air France nor BA did.
See https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a8309971.html
Has there been any further court test cases? Did Air France and BA have to subsequently pay out where they had previously not. I can't see Ryanair paying compensation if neither Air France nor BA did.
Obviously they were smart enough to let sleeping dogs lie
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A business model based on breaking the law is indeed ingenious. Until that law gets enforced, as per CAA action last year.
Good luck Michael, you are going to need it
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Indecision in Dublin
Just an observation:
At this time of the year it has always been possible to book flights for next summer season . Most airlines has had this out for a long time.
It is not possible to book a ticket with RYR on a lot of destinations .
Lack of crew ?
Certainly not lack of aircraft.
Just saying !
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At this time of the year it has always been possible to book flights for next summer season . Most airlines has had this out for a long time.
It is not possible to book a ticket with RYR on a lot of destinations .
Lack of crew ?
Certainly not lack of aircraft.
Just saying !
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Airlines having to pay EU compensation in case of strike action is a double-edged sword. It will certainly hurt LCCs most as they have to pay out a lot more than they got for the tickets, but it might also allow airlines to claim this as damages from unions in jurisdictions entertaining such claims. It is also not in line with the principle of compensation that are meant not to apply if delays/cancellations are caused by events outside the airlines's control (which seems to apply to a strike).
All the best to the RYR pilots nevertheless.
All the best to the RYR pilots nevertheless.
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I think You will find that RYR has hardly payed a cent to anyone.
Rebooking and small sums, hassel and a lot of smoke, add some time and : Voila bygones.
With regards to taking Unions to court. NEVER.
First we would fight that to any high court . Second RYR would cease to exist long before that due lack of pilots.
And Mr Alpine, a strike is ALWAYS inside the control of any airline.
Most certainly this one.
I think You will find that RYR has hardly payed a cent to anyone.
Rebooking and small sums, hassel and a lot of smoke, add some time and : Voila bygones.
With regards to taking Unions to court. NEVER.
First we would fight that to any high court . Second RYR would cease to exist long before that due lack of pilots.
And Mr Alpine, a strike is ALWAYS inside the control of any airline.
Most certainly this one.