Airbus warns about no-deal Brexit
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Airbus warns about no-deal Brexit
Airbus have said a no-deal scenario directly threatens Airbus' future in the UK. What do Prooners think about that? In my view it would be a disaster for Britain's aviation industry.
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44570931
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ations-449655/
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44570931
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...ations-449655/
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There will be many large companies in the same position. They have largely kept silent, presumably under pressure from some inside the British government. Land Rover last week chose to move more of its manufacturing to Slovakia (or Slovenia). It will be interesting to see if Airbus have triggered other companies to speak up.
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The issue cuts both ways. Airbus would be unlikely to find a more experienced lot to produce wings outside of the UK. Shooting themselves in the foot, I think.
Have you joined the "They need us more than we need them" club? Airbus are more than capable of training a new workforce in Europe, USA and China and there aren't many slate quarry jobs left in Wales.
I don't understand this, Isn't Airbus a joint venture between various nations? Isn't Airbus UK more than just a European company that has chosen to base some of it's manufacturing in the UK? Surely there is some historical deal that says some of the facilities need to stay in the UK and all other nations involved?
Reading the news reports it seems production may go to China or elsewhere outside the EU. Why will the UK leaving the EU mean facilities cannot stay in the UK but can go to China or other countries outside the EU?
Reading the news reports it seems production may go to China or elsewhere outside the EU. Why will the UK leaving the EU mean facilities cannot stay in the UK but can go to China or other countries outside the EU?
If it was just down to hard cash/cost, they'd have gone to China before now. I'm with felixflyer on this one though I can't help but think there might be some politics being played too. Largest partners in Airbus? Germany and France? Largest partners in EU? let me guess. Maybe I'm just getting (too) cynical in my old age but................................
I don't understand this, Isn't Airbus a joint venture between various nations? Isn't Airbus UK more than just a European company that has chosen to base some of it's manufacturing in the UK? Surely there is some historical deal that says some of the facilities need to stay in the UK and all other nations involved?
Reading the news reports it seems production may go to China or elsewhere outside the EU. Why will the UK leaving the EU mean facilities cannot stay in the UK but can go to China or other countries outside the EU?
Reading the news reports it seems production may go to China or elsewhere outside the EU. Why will the UK leaving the EU mean facilities cannot stay in the UK but can go to China or other countries outside the EU?
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From the Airbus website:
http://www.airbus.com/be-an-airbus-supplier.html:
Why, therefore, should it matter if the UK is outside the EU?
http://www.airbus.com/be-an-airbus-supplier.html:
Around 80% of Airbus’ activity is sourced. The company works with more than 12,000 suppliers worldwide that provide products and services for flying and non-flying parts. Airbus continuously develops its supplier base, with an overall sourcing volume across the company valued at approximately €49.6 billion. Airbus has identified global sourcing as one of its long-term objectives and aims to source 40% outside Western Europe and the U.S. by 2020. Airbus’ external procurement is equivalent to over two-thirds of the company’s revenues
It shouldn't. The fact they are looking at China and the USA proves this.
I think they are just using Brexit as an excuse to do something they were probably already looking at doing anyway.
Hey ho. That leaves us with thousands of skilled workers. Time to reopen Brooklands I think.
I think they are just using Brexit as an excuse to do something they were probably already looking at doing anyway.
Hey ho. That leaves us with thousands of skilled workers. Time to reopen Brooklands I think.
From the Airbus website:
http://www.airbus.com/be-an-airbus-supplier.html:
Why, therefore, should it matter if the UK is outside the EU?
http://www.airbus.com/be-an-airbus-supplier.html:
Why, therefore, should it matter if the UK is outside the EU?
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It shouldn't. The fact they are looking at China and the USA proves this.
I think they are just using Brexit as an excuse to do something they were probably already looking at doing anyway.
Hey ho. That leaves us with thousands of skilled workers. Time to reopen Brooklands I think.
I think they are just using Brexit as an excuse to do something they were probably already looking at doing anyway.
Hey ho. That leaves us with thousands of skilled workers. Time to reopen Brooklands I think.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
In 2005 Airbus said its target was to have 50% of its components produced outside the EU. The current figure is about 25%. Strangely paperwork and customs don’t appear to be an issue.
Every little helps.....
Every little helps.....
Meanwhile, on the US trade war, Jean-Claude Juncker says "we will do what we have to do to safeguard the EU". Perhaps he might say whether he thinks EU trade with the UK (currently world's 5th largest economy) also needs safeguarding, and if so, what positive action is he taking to do so?
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It shouldn't. The fact they are looking at China and the USA proves this.
I think they are just using Brexit as an excuse to do something they were probably already looking at doing anyway.
Hey ho. That leaves us with thousands of skilled workers. Time to reopen Brooklands I think.
I think they are just using Brexit as an excuse to do something they were probably already looking at doing anyway.
Hey ho. That leaves us with thousands of skilled workers. Time to reopen Brooklands I think.
In the short term (like the next 2 or 3 years) then complete chaos is the problem, unknown regulatory structure, unknown border crossing etc etc. How do you plan a production line if you have no idea how things will get from A to B.
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"It shouldn't. The fact they are looking at China and the USA proves this.
I think they are just using Brexit as an excuse to do something they were probably already looking at doing anyway."
'Never waste a good crisis.' This maxim is used by corporations, as well as politicians.
I think they are just using Brexit as an excuse to do something they were probably already looking at doing anyway."
'Never waste a good crisis.' This maxim is used by corporations, as well as politicians.
"It shouldn't. The fact they are looking at China and the USA proves this.
I think they are just using Brexit as an excuse to do something they were probably already looking at doing anyway."
'Never waste a good crisis.' This maxim is used by corporations, as well as politicians.
I think they are just using Brexit as an excuse to do something they were probably already looking at doing anyway."
'Never waste a good crisis.' This maxim is used by corporations, as well as politicians.
If you are looking at the short term then you can forget about setting up a new factory and associated infrastructure, training staff and organising supply chains.
Brexit would be long sorted and over any chaotic term well before any of this could be set up elsewhere.
Brexit would be long sorted and over any chaotic term well before any of this could be set up elsewhere.
If you are looking at the short term then you can forget about setting up a new factory and associated infrastructure, training staff and organising supply chains.
Brexit would be long sorted and over any chaotic term well before any of this could be set up elsewhere.
Brexit would be long sorted and over any chaotic term well before any of this could be set up elsewhere.