121.5 the new football hotline?

[JumpJumpJump]

Originally Posted by pineteam

True story. For the skippers who don’t know you can listen to many radio stations with ADF. Any combination of numbers multiple of 9 will probably catch a radio channel. For Example in Hong Kong airspace 864 or 1044 are famous music stations. Just add or substract 9 eg 873 or 1035 and you will get another station. Keep going until you get what you are looking for. Not flying in Europe, but for sure you can find one sport channel.

...............Like these guys did in Brazil back in 1973 and flew southwest instead of northeast... whilst there was an ergonomic fault with the heading selector.... it was known that they were listening to Brazil v Chile which was a factor in them not spotting the gross error resulting in a crashfrom fuel exhaustion a mere 1300 kms from the intended destination

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varig_Flight_254

[Chris2303]

Funny how a thread similar to this pops up every 2-3 years

[wiggy]

Originally Posted by Chris2303

Funny how a thread similar to this pops up every 2-3 years

Ummm well even though I was dragged up on a council estate I know the Football World Cup is held every four years so what other sporting event that is of interest across the world is implicated in the misuse of 121.5 - Rugby World Cup?

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[thunderbird7]

Originally Posted by wiggy

Ummm well even though I was dragged up on a council estate I know the Football World Cup is held every four years so what other sporting event that is of interest across the world is implicated in the misuse of 121.5 - Rugby World Cup?

Surely you know the answer to that? Its rounders....

[MrBernoulli]

Sports scores being passed over any frequency strikes me as a largely pointless exercise. The result will still be the same after the aircraft lands, whereupon the desperate can turn on their smart phones and find out for themselves.

[Chris2303]

July 2016 was the last one
The morons on 121.5. Authorities please act!

[glofish]

We definitely need to keep 121.5 as open as possible. Because how on earth would Qatari pilots find the next ATC frequency if other Qatari pilots couldn't relay them to do so on guard?

[Ambient Sheep]

Originally Posted by wiggy

Ummm well even though I was dragged up on a council estate I know the Football World Cup is held every four years so what other sporting event that is of interest across the world is implicated in the misuse of 121.5 - Rugby World Cup?

The European Football Championships aka the Euros? Held two years after (or before, depending on how you look at it) the World Cup. Hence these threads popping up every two years.

By the way, I'm not into football myself but if a pilot came onto the P.A. and announced the result of a live sports fixture I was interested in, I'd be livid... because I'd be recording it on the DVR at home to watch later. It's not the 1970s any more!

As for using 121.5 to share the news around, well as humble pax it's not my place to comment, which is just as well as words fail me.

[MarcK]

And a partial score: France 1

[aerobat77]

Originally Posted by Council Van

There you go children,

LOL hard ;-))) i see its no use to post in open section of pprune cause its entirly playground for computer captains . sorry... no offense, but with your statements you are an open book for the very few here who really have to work for their income sitting in a cockpit. the children . that was good .

i think the open sections here are just playground for a fake . indentify yourself with an ID and come to the locked ones so we can talk my captain ;-)

[aerobat77]

council van , in the case you are a senior first officer of an uk airline please just contact the locked forums admin and identify with your name and ID so we can share there opinions . i never saw you there . you can pm me .

when unable please do not tell who of us is a simmer and who is not...

[Father Dick Byrne]

FFS... Real or simmers, it’s easy to spot the onanists here.

[Viv Savage]

I am absolutely dumbfounded, and disheartened, by the attempted justification that misuse of 121.5 is acceptable. It's not.

The technology exists in several en-route ATC centres in Europe to identify the aircraft responsible-is it not about time more was done to punish those involved?

[Ian W]

Originally Posted by aerobat77

well, in an open forum he may or may not be a former atc guy , we simply do not know .
the same applies to people who claim to speak from actual experience .

in any way no need to argue , in real world this theme is a non issue and pilots and atc appreciate it , only here most of you see it dramatic .

best regards

You can find my mini resume by clicking on my name and reading my profile. I spent a long time at Scottish Centre working in Distress and Diversion where we were less busy but when people had a problem they were normally in a more parlous state and further away from help and radio receivers. The case I was quoting was a call in from a light civil aircraft near Malin head, the aircraft in the sea had some sarbe on 121,5 that we couldn't hear and back chat on 121.5 was not an assistance. We had multiple receivers and that meant we heard all the farmyard impressions from 'professional pilots' who could not hear what was going on 600 miles away from them. Luckily the light GA pilot an amateur was more professional in approach than the airline pilots and we got a crew out of the water.

[Cynical Sid]

Originally Posted by Ian W

You can find my mini resume by clicking on my name and reading my profile. I spent a long time at Scottish Centre working in Distress and Diversion where we were less busy but when people had a problem they were normally in a more parlous state and further away from help and radio receivers. The case I was quoting was a call in from a light civil aircraft near Malin head, the aircraft in the sea had some sarbe on 121,5 that we couldn't hear and back chat on 121.5 was not an assistance. We had multiple receivers and that meant we heard all the farmyard impressions from 'professional pilots' who could not hear what was going on 600 miles away from them. Luckily the light GA pilot an amateur was more professional in approach than the airline pilots and we got a crew out of the water.

Fully agree with you on that. It is too easy to think you are just having a local chat, but from the height of an aircraft you are affecting that frequency half a continent away.

[Right Hand Thread]

Originally Posted by Ian W

You can find my mini resume by clicking on my name and reading my profile. I spent a long time at Scottish Centre working in Distress and Diversion where we were less busy but when people had a problem they were normally in a more parlous state and further away from help and radio receivers. The case I was quoting was a call in from a light civil aircraft near Malin head, the aircraft in the sea had some sarbe on 121,5 that we couldn't hear and back chat on 121.5 was not an assistance. We had multiple receivers and that meant we heard all the farmyard impressions from 'professional pilots' who could not hear what was going on 600 miles away from them. Luckily the light GA pilot an amateur was more professional in approach than the airline pilots and we got a crew out of the water.

Well there you go Aerobat77. You just had your arsche handed to you on a plate so this is the point where you own up to being a Flightsim warrior and admit you’ve been wrong all along.

In the unlikely event that you fly for a living (note that I did not use the phrase ‘professional pilot’) I am sure you fit in well at your low-cost airline. Most of the abuse of 121.5 is clearest when they are in adjacent airspace and I’m sure it’s no coincidence.

That said, the pilot using a Condor callsign over Italy and Germany last week was the same one calling for score updates on 121.5 so it seems the rot has spread to Lufthansa.

Other posts in this thread are hugely disappointing coming as they do from people I’d thought in the past to be level headed. Such a shame.

[Escape Path]

Stay off guard! There's no justifiable reason to clogging it up with nonsense. To the gentleman saying that if any relevant conversation comes up on 121.5 everybody would shut up, how do you expect it to come up in the first place if some rubbish is being xmitted at the same time?

Please, stay off guard. As already said, it is the last line of defense when things are not going the way they usually do. Go talk to an FA or something if you can't keep yourself entertained in the cockpit

[Cynical Sid]

Originally Posted by Escape Path

Stay off guard! There's no justifiable reason to clogging it up with nonsense. To the gentleman saying that if any relevant conversation comes up on 121.5 everybody would shut up, how do you expect it to come up in the first place if some rubbish is being xmitted at the same time?

Please, stay off guard. As already said, it is the last line of defense when things are not going the way they usually do. Go talk to an FA or something if you can't keep yourself entertained in the cockpit

And there is a good chance you would not hear it anyway. A transmission from another aircraft could be well outside your reception range, but a base station in between could hear both. Or nothing if both transmit at the same time. An important message can be lost because some plonker will not shut up.

[IcePaq]

You could listen to Hanoi Hannah on the ADF.

Not surprisingly, her transmitter was bombed a few times.

[sabenaboy]

I do not understand why SELCAL is not implemented at all ATC units to use it on 121.5. The technology is really simple. (A SELCAL signal can even be transmitted using a smartphone.) Almost all airliners already have SELCAL capability. (Yes, it does work on VHF!) Monitoring 121.5 continuously over Europe has become counterproductive and nearly impossible to maintain. SELCAL can be the solution! https://www.pprune.org/atc-issues/577965-why-isn-t-selcal-used-contact-us-121-5-a.html