Air traffic control Strikes France and Barcelona
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mandatory cost reductions
imposed by the Eur Commission ( the so called RP2 and PR3 mandatory cost reductions ) in ATM costs
Cost reductions leading to reduction/shortage staff,
How the hell we don't have enough ATCOs, sectors and associated equipment if CRCO pays all our costs???
i.e. If we need 20 atcos, than we take money from CRCO to hire them, train them and employ them. Whole system is based on real costs. There is no profit neither loss in the system of ANSPs . The same applicable to equipment and other costs. Yes, I know that we should aim to reduce cost per aircraft, that is legal and logic, but we can't reduce costs below money that is the necessary to run safe business. If we need 20 atcos than we need it. We can't do business without people. It is not possible to reduce these costs ,and I think if we find real financial documents that nobody in Europe reduce costs for hiring new people. Salaries are on rise, management benefits business trips and other costs are also on rise, but we are unable to deliver primary task - to handle traffic.
Thanks for clarification,
Time to buy some very fast ferries methinks.
Thats life when you have MOL and WW on one side, sack everyone who doesnt work 24 hours in a day
and the french Unions..
France has to change but it isnt going to accept the massacre of wages and conditions that the Uk for one put people through just so that very rich people can get even richer and oddly that poo people get even poorer.
Strikes that dont affect any one are pointless so they will always affect an Innocent third party. In Uk of course we are brainwashed into all strikes are wrong , its different in France where its all strikes are right (at least until proven otherwise) .
But most people on Pprune would be on the picket lines if they had the T&Cs of french unionised workers and these strikes are more about negotiating new deals rather than blindly hanging on to something most French peolel know has to change
and the french Unions..
France has to change but it isnt going to accept the massacre of wages and conditions that the Uk for one put people through just so that very rich people can get even richer and oddly that poo people get even poorer.
Strikes that dont affect any one are pointless so they will always affect an Innocent third party. In Uk of course we are brainwashed into all strikes are wrong , its different in France where its all strikes are right (at least until proven otherwise) .
But most people on Pprune would be on the picket lines if they had the T&Cs of french unionised workers and these strikes are more about negotiating new deals rather than blindly hanging on to something most French peolel know has to change
Tigger
That's very interesting...I smell something....Assuming I've got this right and we are most definitely talking about a flight into TLS on 10 June then just so you know I flew into TLS that very evening on a flight that operated, albeit slightly late ( just under an hour). I also just happen to know all that airline's earlier UK-TLS flights had operated into Blagnac successfully that day, and AFAIK there were no problems at the airport, though the flights did suffer delays due "enroute" slots. I wonder what this "unexpected airport facility issue" was 'cos it was all working at Blagnac when I arrived....anyhow glad you got compensation
Since I have a special interest in TLS flights I've been watching what has going on with the strikes and as ATC watcher has said:
1. TLS are "covered" by Bordeaux and so whilst there have been delays they have not been as effected as much as some airports to the east, and
2.The cancelling is being done by the airlines - one in particular. As usual some operators are obviously prepared to try and operate on Strike days , some are deciding to not even try.
Regarding the mention of the Toulouse cancellation, I submitted a claim for compensation which was agreed and the following explanation was offered:
"We sincerely regret the cancellation of your flight xxxx on the 10/06/2018 which was due to an unexpected airport facility issue."
"We sincerely regret the cancellation of your flight xxxx on the 10/06/2018 which was due to an unexpected airport facility issue."
Since I have a special interest in TLS flights I've been watching what has going on with the strikes and as ATC watcher has said:
1. TLS are "covered" by Bordeaux and so whilst there have been delays they have not been as effected as much as some airports to the east, and
2.The cancelling is being done by the airlines - one in particular. As usual some operators are obviously prepared to try and operate on Strike days , some are deciding to not even try.
Wiggy
My flight was actually TLS/LIS, not UK.
On the 10th there were 137 flights scheduled to operate from TLS, of which only 18 (13.14%) were cancelled.
FR were scheduled to operate 9 flights but had 5 cancelled (55.56%).
There were four flights scheduled to LIS that day and only the FR was cancelled.
Says it all really.
My flight was actually TLS/LIS, not UK.
On the 10th there were 137 flights scheduled to operate from TLS, of which only 18 (13.14%) were cancelled.
FR were scheduled to operate 9 flights but had 5 cancelled (55.56%).
There were four flights scheduled to LIS that day and only the FR was cancelled.
Says it all really.
