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Nextjet, Sweden, filed for bankruptcy

Old 17th May 2018, 13:43
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Nextjet, Sweden, filed for bankruptcy

Swedish airline Nextjet has filed for bankruptcy. Nextjet was the last passenger airline to fly the BAe ATP aircraft.
Flight into history. ATP already looked out of fashion at the end of the eighties. Amazing how long it held out. Flight into history.
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Next"JET" operating the ancient BAe ATP eh?
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The BAe ATP certainly had its teething problems, but it was probably the most advanced regional airliner in the early 90´s.
I was deeply involved in ATP operations as a Station Manager, remember all the headaches, had it been given more time
it would have been a great sucess. A 64-seater, a real airliner, with a wide cabin, which could be docked to a pier, fuel
consumption was absolutely marvellous, this aircraft was a real money maker. Even knowing that I will be stoned, tared
and feathered by the engineers of those days for my comments, I still say that I loved this aircraft. Over the years I travelled
on all types of regional aircraft, both turboprops and jets, None ever reached the inflight standard of the ATP.
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Originally Posted by BEA 71 View Post
The BAe ATP certainly had its teething problems, but it was probably the most advanced regional airliner in the early 90´s.
I was deeply involved in ATP operations as a Station Manager, remember all the headaches, had it been given more time
it would have been a great sucess. A 64-seater, a real airliner, with a wide cabin, which could be docked to a pier, fuel
consumption was absolutely marvellous, this aircraft was a real money maker. Even knowing that I will be stoned, tared
and feathered by the engineers of those days for my comments, I still say that I loved this aircraft. Over the years I travelled
on all types of regional aircraft, both turboprops and jets, None ever reached the inflight standard of the ATP.
What about the interior noise and vibrations that most of the passengers complain on?
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Seems not to have made enough money for Nextjet. Beside the fact that we babble about an unimportant aircraft, that was a miserable commercial failure, what about some sympathy to the people who lost their jobs ?
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Yeah. Bad luck for Finnish owners, among them Herrfors, Solving, Air Åland and Alandia Air, as much as 72% of the bankrupt's ownership. Among Swedish owners Björn Ulvaeus (ABBA). Also Finnish city of Pori has budgeted 1,5 mln EUR of support for NextJet, but probably did not manage to pay more than 5% of that so far, luckily for them.
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Never like to see airlines and jobs go. Generally speaking though, the end of one airline can lead to the beginning of another, or expansion of others. So, hopefully, new jobs will not be too far off for the ex NextJet staff.
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In a past life, I worked with some of their trainers. All nice guys.

West Atlantic still flies ATPs, so that’s one possibility I guess?
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I believe some of the Saab guys are ex Rex. Wouldn’t be surprised if some of them (or some of the B model Saab’s) end up heading this way.
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Originally Posted by His dudeness View Post
Seems not to have made enough money for Nextjet. Beside the fact that we babble about an unimportant aircraft, that was a miserable commercial failure, what about some sympathy to the people who lost their jobs ?
This is not a fair statement Your Dudeness, like most commentors I have great sympathy with those colleagues who lose their jobs. Nextjet was very successful operating ATP aircraft, if I remember it right, they had a profitable operation with ATP from the beginning. Once the teething problems were over, it was a well sought after aircraft. To say it was an unimportant aircraft that was a commercial failure is just not right. The main problems were with the Pratt & Whitney engines, which took a long time to solve. Just to remind you, there are similarities today. You would not call a A 320neo a commercial failure, would you? I wouldn´t. Apart from the technical issues, there was another reason. Soon after this aircraft was introduced, British Airways had to cease their Internal German Operations, which meant that the ATP was not needed any longer to serve the regional routes in this country. The Boeing 737 was re-integrated in to the European Network. In addition the ATP did not enjoy the subsidies, which were generously given to a Toulouse based manufacturer.
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From an outsiders POV I don't think its the Aircraft per say its more of a regional market issue in Scandinavia, There was a Norwegian DH8 operator went bust at xmas but wasn't mentioned here.

The price the punters are willing to pay is far lower than the actual cost of operating the aircraft with the available loads with the local cost base.

The none local airlines can just about cover costs but there is a hellva load of social dodging and cheaper oversight countries to do it.

The locals want a Swedish operator to do the routes but they are not willing to pay the cost of that.
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Nextjet had around 290 employees, out of which some 80 were pilots.

Article in Swedish only: https://www.expressen.se/dinapengar/...er-om-konkurs/
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Oh the ATP, commonly known as Another Technical Problem! Or even a Yougo (very cheap unreliable car) -you go tell them it is not flying today.
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ATP also known as......Antique Technology Perpetuated
Quite unjust really,as i flew on them many times and found them ideal for the commuter routes they operated.
In keeping with the previous HS748,the ATP was to say the least,a little,over,engineered.
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Nextjet had around 290 employees, out of which some 80 were pilots.

Article in Swedish only: https://www.expressen.se/dinapengar/...er-om-konkurs/
Hear Jota are looking for crew. Particularly 146/RJ type rated. Although I understand other experience considered.
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